Originally posted by FabianFnasDidn’t you notice that KellyJay said “...I'm denying anything…”and NOT “...I'm denying nothing…”?
I know, you're deniying anything that spelled with s-c-i-e-n-c-e.
You are a true denier.
- thus, by saying this, he technically implies that he is potentially denying everything thus he implied that he could be denying science because of this 😀
Originally posted by Andrew HamiltonKellyJay's just a downhome Pyrrhonist.
Didn’t you notice that KellyJay said “...I'm denying [b]anything…”and NOT “...I'm denying nothing…”?
- thus, by saying this, he technically implies that he is potentially denying everything thus he implied that he could be denying science because of this 😀[/b]
Originally posted by JigtieAnyone wanting to see dinosaurs cqn see dinosaurs. But I see dromedars, giraffs, and kangurus. Not impossible becuase these kind of animals was living at the same time as humans, sometimes with humans.
I would agree, that [b]if the pictures were authentic, it would be "funny"
that humans (some sixty five million years after the extinction of such
animals) manage to depict them to a scale level similarity. And it being so
"funny" would pose the question: "How on earth could these people have
done that?", no rock imprints set aside.[/b]
But (I pose the question again) if dinosaurs was actually living in historic times - where are the fossils? We have found fossils of mammoths, sabeltoothed tigers, ponysized elephants from historic times, but where are the dinosaur fossils from historic times? Why are there a sudden lack of dinosaur fossils younger than 65 million of years?
Please, all dinosaur creationists, please answer these questions!
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Here is why I have a problem with the whole idea that dinosaurs existed alongside human beings.
As a theist (of a different religion than probably everyone on this site) I don't have the problem with the belief in a higher power(s) but I do acknowledge that religion is only mechanism that we use to explain that which we cannot fully understand and science has not yet been able to explain. I acknowledge that science is always playing catch up and ultimately we may not ever be able to explain all the great mysteries of the universe with science. So I don't have a problem with humans using religion to help fill the gap and also as a moral compass.
However, I find annoying and disturbing when people of a certain religion, in this case Christianity, attempt to ignore or explain away that which has already been proven by science in an attempt to bolster the antiquated views of their religion. I think this is the case with this whole dinosaur discussion. Christians that defend the position that dinosaurs existed in the Garden of Eden are making themselves look like clowns and are hurting their cause by thereby excluding rational people.
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... and to expound further. It's really not that hard to admit that the Old Testament was written a long time ago and was based on the very limited understanding of the universe posessed by the people that existed at that time. I just find it kind of sad that people need to cling to the literal interpretation of a mythology written more than 2000 years ago to the point that they simply cannot accept that which has been proven by science.
How ridiculous would it sound to you Christians if I were to insist that thunder is caused by a great god flying around in his chariot way up in the sky. We know better. Same goes for dinosaurs.
I have to defend the christians a bit.
(1) Only a tiny small part of the christian community believe in dinosaurs in eden. We have one active representative here on RHP, very much wanting to believe his version of reality is the correct one and that sciene is wrong in thos parts that differ from his particular views. I don't think we really have other of the same kind here.
(2) But we have a few that adopt the dinosaur idea as an intellectual game. Like "What if there were dinosaurii living side by side with people? What would the consequences be?" And this is really fun. Like asking a teenager why he thinks that the Earth is shaped like a ball, and not like a pizza. It's amusing to listen on his explanations and then twist them and see him getting more and more confused.
(3) Then we have those who give links to the creationists view, just for fun. Taking side, so to speak, just to even out the odds a little. They have fun.
But, bottom line - there are not much people belivien in the dinosaur theory, not many christians either. Christians here feel embarassed and don't want to defend the fellow christian who paint himself deeper and deeper into a corner by rational arguments.
Most of the christians are sound thinking member of the christian society, able to think for themselves and stick by science when needed.