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07 Feb 13
Originally posted by vistesdThanks for the rational exchange; and for listening to my pov even though it was merely about your pov! I have a deep seated belief in the reality of a spiritual delivering God; I cannot rationalise it away, I cannot deny it. What to do.
This is my last post here.
That is a considered and considerate reply, and I thank you. The following is not for argument, only for some explication.
There is a divide between Judaism and Christianity—especially sola scriptural Protestant Christianity. Judaism is the religion of the Dual Torah: the written Torah and the Oral Torah (which also ...[text shortened]... did not/do not mean to argue for my side of that divide—only from it.
Be well.
Be well yourself.
07 Feb 13
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Originally posted by vistesdActually, I was hoping you'd give me some feedback. I truly found your post interesting. If I failed to understand the intended deliverable from the interpretive guidelines, then by all means, explain why. Also, the question wasn't at all meant to be rhetorical. I'm not sure if I failed to understand you there or if my point is valid.
Points well made, and I will take them under advisement.
Take care.[/b]
07 Feb 13
If Brandon Flowers, a Mormon, can sing
'Somebody told me
You had a boyfriend
Who looked like a girlfriend
That I had in February of last year'
And have millions dancing along to his tune, I think homophobic Christians are missing something.
Christianity that rants against homosexuality is what I'd call 'I'm alright jack' christianity, suits me fine, could not care less about you. Well it great your alright now would you kindly...
Most rational people would not touch it with a barge pole, it puts people who might otherwise think about jesus right off, the only reason I give it some credit is i to sympathetic to opinions different to my own, I read about the iatola komani sometimes, i feel like i still am when i read parts of this thread....
07 Feb 13
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneOkay, this will be my last post for a time, anyway. 🙂
Actually, I was hoping you'd give me some feedback. I truly found your post interesting. If I failed to understand the intended deliverable from the interpretive guidelines, then by all means, explain why. Also, the question wasn't at all meant to be rhetorical. I'm not sure if I failed to understand you there or if my point is valid.
Sorry I was too brief to be clear. I think your points are are correct, and are improvements to what I presented; I just wanted to reflect on them a bit.
Be well, ToO.
07 Feb 13
Originally posted by vistesdThanks for the feedback. You too.
Okay, this will be my last post for a time, anyway. 🙂
Sorry I was too brief to be clear. I think your points are are correct, and are improvements to what I presented; I just wanted to reflect on them a bit.
Be well, ToO.
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08 Feb 13
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Originally posted by e4chrisGet some perspective. It's a free country where people disagree with each other and yet you are free to do whatever you want. So some people say that homosexuality is a sin and others disagree; stop bleating about it and just get on with your life.
I read about the iatola komani sometimes, i feel like i still am when i read parts of this thread....
08 Feb 13
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Originally posted by divegeesterUnfortunately there are Christians, like you, who are homophobic hypocrites who use the Bible as a weapon in order to bully, further bigotry, deny human rights etc. which makes it difficult for their victims to "get on with [their lives]".
Get some perspective. It's a free country where people disagree with each other and yet you are free to do whatever you want. So some people say that homosexuality is a sin and others disagree; stop bleating about it and just get on with your life.
Fortunately there are other Christians, unlike you, who use the Bible as an instrument for truth, peace, love and understanding.
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08 Feb 13
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneOnly because they have either not actually read the bible or delude themselves as to what it says.
Unfortunately there are Christians, like you, who are homophobic hypocrites who use the Bible as a weapon in order to bully, further bigotry, deny human rights etc. which makes it difficult for their victims to "get on with [their lives]".
Fortunately there are other Christians, unlike you, who use the Bible as an instrument for truth, peace, love and understanding.
These people are good not because it says good things in the bible but because they are in of themselves good.
They don't need the bible to be good, it just gets in the way.
08 Feb 13
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Originally posted by googlefudgeYou need to consider that the Bible is littered with conflicting, contrary and ambiguous teachings. So actually it is more a matter of which parts a given Christian picks and chooses to emphasize/follow. From what I gather, there are many Christians that have read the Bible, do not delude themselves and who use the Bible as an instrument for truth, peace, love and understanding. From what I can tell, the most common delusion is that the Bible does not contain conflicting, contrary and ambiguous teachings and that it is those people who make up the bulk of the homophobes.
Only because they have either not actually read the bible or delude themselves as to what it says.
These people are good not because it says good things in the bible but because they are in of themselves good.
They don't need the bible to be good, it just gets in the way.
But you are correct in saying that no one needs the Bible to be good.
08 Feb 13
Originally posted by divegeesterActually, no, you are not 'free to do whatever you want' especially when it harms others. For as long as people are discriminated against because of their sexual preferences, people should continue to speak up about it and demand justice and equality.
Get some perspective. It's a free country where people disagree with each other and yet you are free to do whatever you want. So some people say that homosexuality is a sin and others disagree; stop bleating about it and just get on with your life.
08 Feb 13
Originally posted by twhiteheadWhat's more, don't know for certain if DG is against gay marriage, but if he is, there's serious irony in his claim that people are 'free to do whatever [they] want'. Such is the hypocrisy that comes with homophobia.
Actually, no, you are not 'free to do whatever you want' especially when it harms others. For as long as people are discriminated against because of their sexual preferences, people should continue to speak up about it and demand justice and equality.
08 Feb 13
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneThe truth is that it is your mind that is littered with conflicting, contrary, and ambiguous teachings. 😏
You need to consider that the Bible is littered with conflicting, contrary and ambiguous teachings. So actually it is more a matter of which parts a given Christian picks and chooses to emphasize/follow. From what I gather, there are many Christians that have read the Bible, do not delude themselves and who use the Bible as an instrument for truth, peace, ...[text shortened]... ulk of the homophobes.
But you are correct in saying that no one needs the Bible to be good.