Mainstream vrs Woke Christianity

@KellyJay said
He is the great “I AM.” Righteousness, goodness, and love define Him, not left or right, for us; those are just two sides of the same coin.

To assign 'woke' to Him makes Him less than in my opinion.
Is this not why Conservative Jews do not accept Jesus ?
"He came in riding on a donkey." A donkey's colt to be exact. 🙂

He is the great “I AM.” Righteousness, goodness, and love define Him, not left or right, for us; those are just two sides of the same coin.
Then why are you shunning the woke liberal side of the coin?

@KingDavid403 said
To assign 'woke' to Him makes Him less than in my opinion.
Is this not why Conservative Jews do not accept Jesus ?
"He came in riding on a donkey." A donkey's colt to be exact. 🙂

He is the great “I AM.” Righteousness, goodness, and love define Him, not left or right, for us; those are just two sides of the same coin.
Then why are you shunning the woke liberal side of the coin?

I don’t believing righteousness a quality owned by the right or left. You can error either way, just like pleasure and pain can both be a cause for destruction, or health.

@KellyJay said
I don’t believing righteousness a quality owned by the right or left. You can error either way, just like pleasure and pain can both be a cause for destruction, or health.

I don’t believing righteousness a quality owned by the right or left.
I agree. Jesus said: "You will know them by their fruit (Love)."

@KingDavid403 said
I don’t believing righteousness a quality owned by the right or left.
I agree. Jesus said: "You will know them by their fruit (Love)."

If you ignore all of the attributes of God you will have a perverted view of Him including love. God is love, it is not that He does loving things there was ever a time He was not love, God is just. righteous, good, holy, and merciful. At no time does He set aside one attribute for the sake of another!

@KellyJay said
If you ignore all of the attributes of God you will have a perverted view of Him including love. God is love, it is not that He does loving things there was ever a time He was not love, God is just. righteous, good, holy, and merciful. At no time does He set aside one attribute for the sake of another!

God is just. righteous, good, holy, and merciful. At no time does He set aside one attribute for the sake of another! At no time does He set aside one attribute for the sake of another!

I never said anywhere that He does.
Jesus said: "You will know them by their fruits."
How did you come to the conclusion that I was setting aside Attributes of God by quoting the Scripture above spoken by Jesus Himself?

God is love, it is not that He does loving things there was ever a time He was not love, God is just.
You lost me here; please explain? Can there be love, mercy, forgiveness, etc, without justice? Read-up on Kind David's adulteries with Bathsheba, and, his 1st degree murder of Uriah for a clue.

@KingDavid403 said
God is just. righteous, good, holy, and merciful. At no time does He set aside one attribute for the sake of another! At no time does He set aside one attribute for the sake of another!

I never said anywhere that He does.
Jesus said: "You will know them by their fruits."
How did you come to the conclusion that I was setting aside Attributes of God by quo ...[text shortened]... /b]
You lost me here; please explain? Can there be love, mercy, forgiveness, etc, without justice?

Everything He does will never put one of His attributes above another for example His Mercy will not suffer due to His love and justice. So His transcending time means every evil thing done and said by us is like an immediate crime against God they do not drift away into the past forgotten. It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of an angry God!

@KingDavid403 said
I don’t believing righteousness a quality owned by the right or left.
I agree. Jesus said: "You will know them by their fruit (Love)."

Matthew 7:19 states that any tree that doesn't bear good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire, meaning that individuals who do not produce righteous actions will face judgment. In this context, "fruit" symbolizes the actions and outcomes of a person's life, and the verse is a warning from Jesus to beware of false prophets by judging their "fruit," or the positive impact they have on others, and avoiding those who lead people astray.
False prophets: Jesus uses this metaphor to warn against false prophets and teachers who may seem legitimate but do not genuinely follow God's word.
"Good fruit": This refers to the positive and righteous deeds that a person produces, which are the result of a life lived according to God's teachings.
"Cut down and thrown into the fire": This symbolizes the ultimate judgment and punishment for those who lead unrighteous lives. It is a powerful warning of the serious consequences of failing to follow God's will and living a life of integrity and righteousness.
This verse is part of a larger warning in Matthew 7:15-20 about false prophets and the importance of discerning truth from deception. It is also connected to an earlier warning from John the Baptist, who used a similar metaphor to urge repentance.

@mike69 said
Matthew 7:19 states that any tree that doesn't bear good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire, meaning that individuals who do not produce righteous actions will face judgment. In this context, "fruit" symbolizes the actions and outcomes of a person's life, and the verse is a warning from Jesus to beware of false prophets by judging their "fruit," or the positive im ...[text shortened]... nnected to an earlier warning from John the Baptist, who used a similar metaphor to urge repentance.

Yes. Good post.

It is a powerful warning of the serious consequences of failing to follow God's will and living a life of integrity and righteousness.
And LOVE!

[1Corinthians 13:1-13 NKJV] 1 "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2 And though I have [the gift of] prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed [the poor], and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing. 4 Love suffers long [and] is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. 8 Love never fails.

But whether [there are] prophecies, they will fail; whether [there are] tongues, they will cease; whether [there is] knowledge, it will vanish away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known. 13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these [is] love."

Looks like we ALL have a ways to go; including myself.

@KellyJay said
Everything He does will never put one of His attributes above another for example His Mercy will not suffer due to His love and justice. So His transcending time means every evil thing done and said by us is like an immediate crime against God they do not drift away into the past forgotten. It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of an angry God!

His Mercy will not suffer due to His love and justice.

Yes, exactly. God's Attributes go hand in hand; Perfectly.

So His transcending time means every evil thing done and said by us is like an immediate crime against God they do not drift away into the past forgotten.
Yes, and no.

[Psalms 103:1-19 NKJV] 1 [A Psalm] of David.
"Bless the LORD, O my soul; And all that is within me, [bless] His holy name! 2 Bless the LORD, O my soul, And forget not all His benefits: 3 Who forgives all your iniquities, Who heals all your diseases, 4 Who redeems your life from destruction, Who crowns you with lovingkindness and tender mercies, 5 Who satisfies your mouth with good [things], [So that] your youth is renewed like the eagle's. 6 The LORD executes righteousness And justice for all who are oppressed."

7 "He made known His ways to Moses, His acts to the children of Israel. 8 The LORD [is] merciful and gracious, Slow to anger, and abounding in mercy. 9 He will not always strive [with us], Nor will He keep [His anger] forever. 10 He has not dealt with us according to our sins, Nor punished us according to our iniquities. 11 For as the heavens are high above the earth, [So] great is His mercy toward those who fear Him; 12 As far as the east is from the west, [So] far has He removed our transgressions from us. 13 As a father pities [his] children, [So] the LORD pities those who fear Him. 14 For He knows our frame; He remembers that we [are] dust. 15 [As for] man, his days [are] like grass; As a flower of the field, so he flourishes. 16 For the wind passes over it, and it is gone, And its place remembers it no more."
17 "But the mercy of the LORD [is] from everlasting to everlasting On those who fear Him, And His righteousness to children's children, 18 To such as keep His covenant, And to those who remember His commandments to do them. 19 The LORD has established His throne in heaven, And His kingdom rules over all."

@KingDavid403



Looks like we ALL have a ways to go; including myself.

Same here, it’s when we can’t recognize this and it doesn’t even bother us internally that is the scary part.

@mike69 said
Same here, it’s when we can’t recognize this and it doesn’t even bother us internally that is the scary part.

I think we are all on the same page; that is a good thing, right? 🙂

@mike69 said
Same here, it’s when we can’t recognize this and it doesn’t even bother us internally that is the scary part.

I agree 100%.

[Philippians 3:12-14, 16 NKJV] 12 "Not that I have already attained, or am already perfected; but I press on, that I may lay hold of that for which Christ Jesus has also laid hold of me. 13 Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing [I do], forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead, 14 "I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus." ... 16 Nevertheless, to [the degree] that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us be of the same mind."

@KellyJay said
I think we are all on the same page; that is a good thing, right? 🙂

Yes, it’s a much nicer feeling.

@KingDavid403 said
I agree 100%.

[Philippians 3:12-14, 16 NKJV] 12 "Not that I have already attained, or am already perfected; but I press on, that I may lay hold of that for which Christ Jesus has also laid hold of me. 13 Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing [I do], forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ...[text shortened]... he degree] that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us be of the same mind."

👍🙏

@KellyJay said
👍🙏

🙂Praise God! 🙂