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@mike69 said
Yes, it’s a much nicer feeling.
Amen. 🙂


As we were talking yesterday, I thought of this verse but didn’t post it; today it was part of my devotionals. I read at Bible Gateway, and I turn off the chapter and verse numbers so they do not add pauses to the text that have nothing at all to do with the flow of thought in the scriptures. Since it was there, I want to say we can err on either side, but eyes fixed on Jesus, that is what is required..

Proverbs 4
Ponder the path of your feet; then all your ways will be sure. Do not swerve to the right or to the left; turn your foot away from evil.

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@KellyJay said
As we were talking yesterday, I thought of this verse but didn’t post it; today it was part of my devotionals. I read at Bible Gateway, and I turn off the chapter and verse numbers so they do not add pauses to the text that have nothing at all to do with the flow of thought in the scriptures. Since it was there, I want to say we can err on either side, but eyes fixed on Je ...[text shortened]... l your ways will be sure. Do not swerve to the right or to the left; turn your foot away from evil.
Thanks for sharing this Scripture Kelly Jay; It's a perfect Scripture for this discussion. Praise God!
Believe it or not, this scripture comes to my mind often. To me, both the far-left and far-right are way off base. It's the narrow path in between that's hard to find and follow; but somewhere in there is the right path; and with God, we can find it in His Love and Righteousness. 🙂


@KingDavid403 said
Thanks for sharing this Scripture Kelly Jay; It's a perfect Scripture for this discussion. Praise God!
Believe it or not, this scripture comes to my mind often. To me, both the far-left and far-right are way off base. It's the narrow path in between that's hard to find and follow; but somewhere in there is the right path; and with God, we can find it in His Love and Righteousness. 🙂
Amen and amen, or truly truly!

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@KellyJay said
Amen and amen, or truly truly!
Another thing that can make it difficult to find the right path, is that there are exceptions to God's Golden Rules in rare circumstances. Such as:

[Matthew 12:4 NKJV] 1 "At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat. 2 And when the Pharisees saw [it], they said to Him, "Look, Your disciples are doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath!"
3 But He said to them, "Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, he and those who were with him: 4 "how he entered the house of God and ate the showbread which was not lawful for him to eat, nor for those who were with him, but only for the priests?
[Mark 2:26 NKJV] 26 "how he went into the house of God [in the days] of Abiathar the high priest, and ate the showbread, which is not lawful to eat except for the priests, and also gave some to those who were with him?"
[Luke 6:4 NKJV] 4 "how he went into the house of God, took and ate the showbread, and also gave some to those with him, which is not lawful for any but the priests to eat?"
etc. War is another question in some cases also, etc.


@KingDavid403 said
Another thing that can make it difficult to find the right path, is that there are exceptions to God's Golden Rules in rare circumstances. Such as:

[Matthew 12:4 NKJV] 1 "At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat. 2 And when the Pharisees saw [it], they said to Him, "Loo ...[text shortened]... not lawful for any but the priests to eat?"
etc. War is another question in some cases also, etc.
I believe all of the 10 commandments were brought forward into the NT, except one. Where the Sabath rest is no longer a set day, but now Jesus Christ Himself, Lord of the Sabbath and our rest.


@KellyJay said
I believe all of the 10 commandments were brought forward into the NT, except one. Where the Sabath rest is no longer a set day, but now Jesus Christ Himself, Lord of the Sabbath and our rest.
Where the Sabath rest is no longer a set day, but now Jesus Christ Himself, Lord of the Sabbath and our rest.
In my personal opinion I agree with you; however, I do not think it is wrong for Christian sects to choose a Sabbath day for them to honor our Lord. When they start telling others, that unless they follow their day and ways that you're going to hell, then that is where they are wrong.
[Romans 14:1-14 AMP] 1 As for the one whose faith is weak, accept him [into your fellowship], but not for [the purpose of] quarreling over his opinions. 2 One man's faith permits him to eat everything, while the weak believer eats only vegetables [to avoid eating ritually unclean meat or something previously considered unclean].
3 The one who eats [everything] is not to look down on the one who does not eat, and the one who does not eat must not criticize or pass judgment on the one who eats [everything], for God has accepted him. 4 Who are you to judge the servant of another? Before his own master he stands [approved] or falls [out of favor]. And he [who serves the Master--the Lord] will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
5 One person regards one day as better [or more important] than another, while another regards every day [the same as any other]. Let everyone be fully convinced (assured, satisfied) in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord. He who eats, eats for the Lord, since he gives thanks to God; while he who abstains, abstains for the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 None of us lives for himself [for his own benefit, but for the Lord], and none of us dies for himself [but for the Lord]. 8 If we live, we live for the Lord, and if we die, we die for the Lord. So then, whether we live or die, we are the Lord's. 9 For Christ died and lived again for this reason, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. 10 But you, why do you criticize your brother? Or you again, why do you look down on your [believing] brother or regard him with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God [who alone is judge].
11 For it is written [in Scripture], "AS I LIVE, SAYS THE LORD, EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW TO ME, AND EVERY TONGUE SHALL GIVE PRAISE TO GOD." 12 So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God. 13 Then let us not criticize one another anymore, but rather determine this--not to put an obstacle or a stumbling block or a source of temptation in another believer's way. 14 I know and am convinced [as one] in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean [ritually defiled, and unholy] in itself; but [nonetheless] it is unclean to anyone who thinks it is unclean." 🙂

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@KingDavid403 said
Where the Sabath rest is no longer a set day, but now Jesus Christ Himself, Lord of the Sabbath and our rest.
In my personal opinion I agree with you; however, I do not think it is wrong for Christian sects to choose a Sabbath day for them to honor our Lord. When they start telling others, that unless they follow their day and ways that you're going to hell, the ...[text shortened]... led, and unholy] in itself; but [nonetheless] it is unclean to anyone who thinks it is unclean." 🙂
I agree with you , if you can not do it faith, don’t.

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@mike69 said
Thoughts? The debate actually starts around a minute in, I could have done without the opening as I feel it takes away from the discussion.

https://youtu.be/_sVp-7f-mx0?si=3Ie2IpiNsd16E9kl
Thoughts? It has been said that God is Love, but you were (perhaps) taught to hate Gays. Not necessarily your fault, and it's not anti-Semitic to say that the ancient Jews and maybe even some modern ones (not to mention generations of presumably celibate men in Christian garb) had a lot to do with that.

Happy now?

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@KellyJay said
I think we are all on the same page; that is a good thing, right? 🙂
All pages are grass, torn away from the daily desk-calendar one by one.

I don't see a contradiction between "Christian" and "Woke".

It reminds me of the Buddha's humble "I am awake."


Christianity is a crust upon the Christ.

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@mike69 said
Thoughts? The debate actually starts around a minute in, I could have done without the opening as I feel it takes away from the discussion.

https://youtu.be/_sVp-7f-mx0?si=3Ie2IpiNsd16E9kl
Clever subject line!

Was Jesus not Woke?
Is Christ not Woke?
As for the Buddha: . . .

Now I don't think this would necessarily apply to you yourself, but I'd like to bring up this title of a book by J. B. Phillips first published in 1952:

"Your God Is Too Small"

(TBH, I did not subject myself to the hour-long video linked in your OP. I'm 66 now. I very much favor shorter forms and have done so all my life. Give me bullet points or an executive summary, Spanky! The clock is ticking. 😉 )

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@Rajk999 said
The great apostacy and the falling away of the church was clearly foretold by Paul and the Apostles. Nothing in the video is a surprise at all. Christianity can include anyone and any doctrine however evil .. that is the Christianity of men. So the inclusion of sexual perversions and homosexuality which is among the worst of the abominations in the bible, into the Christian ...[text shortened]... the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Rev 21:7-8 KJV) [/i]
which is among the worst of the abominations in the bible,
Please number the abominations from least worst, to most worst, so that we can ALL know which ones aren't the worst. I guess God's Holy Word forgot to clear this one up for us. 😆

"Proverbs 12:22 NKJV] 22 Lying lips [are] an abomination to the LORD, But those who deal truthfully [are] His delight.

Trump and his whole administration commit this abomination to the Lord all day every day; but I assume that you think that this ABOMINATION to THE LORD is not so bad eh?
"Stupid is as stupid says."


@KingDavid403 said
Jesus said: "You will know them by their fruits."
Indeed; and certainly not by their politics.

Also for me a very personal conviction from some time ago.
Romans 12:1 "If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone."
As well as prayer and seeking forgiveness I also had to read up to get some mental traction. Such was the poor condition of my mind. It remains a challenge most days in some way or another.

Principles for Peaceful Relationships
- Make an Effort
- Be a Peacemaker
- Pursue Peace
- Turn from Evil
- Communicate Clearly
- Avoid Conflict
- Forgive and Let Go

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@diver said
Indeed; and certainly not by their politics.

Also for me a very personal conviction from some time ago.
Romans 12:1 "If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone."
As well as prayer and seeking forgiveness I also had to read up to get some mental traction. Such was the poor condition of my mind. It remains a challenge most days in som ...[text shortened]... ker
- Pursue Peace
- Turn from Evil
- Communicate Clearly
- Avoid Conflict
- Forgive and Let Go
I want to say something, and it would be appreciative, but I'm not sure what.

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