messianic prophecies

Originally posted by FMF
You mentioned that there were 400 messianic prophecies. How many mention "Jesus"?

I have stated that i do not know Gerald or cannot thank of any off hand.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have stated that i do not know Gerald.

So on what basis do you 'know' - and claim - that there are "about 400"?

Originally posted by FMF
Do any of the reasons surrounding any of the 400 you cited also "evade" you?

Is Isaiah 2:2-4 one of the 400 you mentioned?

yawn, please troll somewhere else, we are trying to have a discussion, i will not have
you turning it into your usual farce.

Originally posted by FMF
So on what basis do you 'know' - and claim - that there are "about 400"?

on the basis that i read it in a book by Alfred Edersheim , the life and times of the
messiah. which lists them at the back, Gerald.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yawn, please troll somewhere else, we are trying to have a discussion, i will not have
you turning it into your usual farce.

I think my questions are pretty straight forward and address head on a claim you have made on this thread.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
on the basis that i read it in a book by Alfred Edersheim , the life and times of the
messiah. which lists them at the back.

But if, as you said, "Jesus is not mentioned in the passage" there is no particular reason to believe that they are messianic prophecies, right? That's your stance?

Originally posted by FMF
I think my questions are pretty straight forward and address head on a claim you have made on this thread.

no, you do what you always do Gerald, you completely ignored any reference to the
actual content of the prophecy and instead you are asking irrelevant questions. If you
are interested, state why you think it is a messianic prophecy, If you are interested
provide other examples, but no, the usual drivel.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
indeed they do, there are, after all, about 400 or so written in the sacred text.

there aren't quiet that many, and the few actual ones there are, jesus failed to fulfill.

Originally posted by FMF
But if, as you said, "Jesus is not mentioned in the passage" there is no particular reason to believe that they are messianic prophecies, right? That's your stance?

I have stated that i think that it probably is a messianic prophecy although it does not
mention Christ by name, although i cannot think of any valid reasons to substantiate
why it is considered a messianic prophecy, this is my position Gerald, if you have
reasons why you consider it to be a messianic prophecy then let those reasons be
heard, otherwise, troll elsewhere Gerald.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no, you do what you always do Gerald, you completely ignored any reference to the
actual content of the prophecy and instead you are asking irrelevant questions. If you
are interested, state why you think it is a messianic prophecy, If you are interested
provide other examples, but no, the usual drivel.

You made the claim about there being 400 messianic prophecies, not me. It now seems that, according to you, Isaiah 2:2-4 is specifically NOT one of the 400 because, as you pointed out, "Jesus is not mentioned in the passage". If we apply the same criterion to the 400, do we still have "about 400" or does it fall to 300, or 200, or perhaps even less?

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
there aren't quiet that many, and the few actual ones there are, jesus failed to fulfill.

Alfred Edersheim seems to think so, but then again, he was only a Biblical scholar of
international renown and a former Jew who became a Christian and your qualifications
are, disgruntled secular liberalist, neeeext!

Originally posted by FMF
You made the claim about there being 400 messianic prophecies, not me. It now seems that, according to you, Isaiah 2:2-4 is specifically NOT one of the 400 because, as you pointed out, "Jesus is not mentioned in the passage". If we apply the same criterion to the 400, do we still have "about 400" or does it fall to 300, or 200, or perhaps even less?

No Gerald i have stated nothing specific at all, you are havering as usual, either pony
uo something relevant or troll somewhere else. lets ask you some questions Gerald
shall we, why do you think it is a messianic prophecy.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have stated that i think that it probably is a messianic prophecy although it does not
mention Christ by name, although i cannot think of any valid reasons to substantiate
why it is considered a messianic prophecy, this is my position Gerald, if you have
reasons why you consider it to be a messianic prophecy then let those reasons be
heard, otherwise, troll elsewhere Gerald.

So now Isaiah 2:2-4 is a messianic prophecy but you "cannot think of any valid reasons to substantiate why it is considered a messianic prophecy", that is your stance? And the other 400 or so are also as vague and arbitrary as this, are they?

Originally posted by FMF
So now Isaiah 2:2-4 [b]is a messianic prophecy but you "cannot think of any valid reasons to substantiate why it is considered a messianic prophecy", that is your stance? And the other 400 or so are also as vague and arbitrary as this, are they?[/b]

Gerald, would you like a banana?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Alfred Edersheim seems to think so, but then again, he was only a Biblical scholar of
international renown and a former Jew who became a Christian and your qualifications
are, disgruntled secular liberalist, neeeext!

it's completely irrelevant what alfred edersheim believes or has written down. he is not here making those claims, you are.

the fact remains that all those alleged "400" prophecies can apply to anyone, but only the messiah can fulfill the actual messianic prophecies. jesus fuliflled *zero* of these prophecies.