messianic prophecies

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
No Gerald i have stated nothing specific at all, you are havering as usual, either pony
uo something relevant or troll somewhere else. lets ask you some questions Gerald
shall we, why do you think it is a messianic prophecy.

Can messianic prophecies be messianic prophecies without mentioning "Jesus" or the "Messiah"?

Originally posted by FMF
Can messianic prophecies be messianic prophecies [b]without mentioning "Jesus" or the "Messiah"?[/b]

Indeed they can, i produced one, why don't you make reference to that?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Gerald, would you like a banana?

On page 1 you said "there are, after all, about 400 or so written in the sacred text" and it's only page 3 or 4 and yet, when questioned about your claim, you are already dodging and deflecting.

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
it's completely irrelevant what alfred edersheim believes or has written down. he is not here making those claims, you are.

the fact remains that all those alleged "400" prophecies can apply to anyone, but only the messiah can fulfill the actual messianic prophecies. jesus fuliflled *zero* of these prophecies.

FAIL, i made the claim on the basis of what he had written, too bad for you Spanky, and
No they cannot apply to anyone, in fact, you will now state, how its possible for me to
be born of the tribe of Judah and in Bethlehem, both messianic requirements.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Indeed they can, i produced one, why don't you make reference to that?

So how many of the 400 you mentioned are messianic prophecies that do not mention "Jesus" or the "Messiah"?

Originally posted by FMF
On page 1 you said "there are, after all, about 400 or so written in the sacred text" and it's only page 3 or 4 and yet, when questioned about your claim, you are already dodging and deflecting.

I an neither deflecting nor dodging Gerald, if you are going to post spam, you will get
spam in return.

Originally posted by FMF
So how many of the 400 you mentioned are messianic prophecies that [b]do not mention "Jesus" or the "Messiah"?[/b]

more spam, i have said four times, that i cannot think of any that mention Jesus by
name, DO YOU UNDERSTAND GERALD, i cannot think of any that mention Jesus by
name and here it is again Gerald, I cannot think of any that mention Jesus by name
and one more time Gerald please write it down on a piece of paper, lick it and slap it to
your forehead, i cannot think of any that mention Jesus by name, you got that Gerald?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I an neither deflecting nor dodging Gerald, if you are going to post spam, you will get
spam in return.

Spam?

Surely, trying to dismiss questions that make you uncomfortable - because what you have said so far on this thread does not add up - as "spam", is a classic example of deflecting and dodging.

Originally posted by FMF
Spam?

Surely, trying to dismiss questions that make you uncomfortable - because what you have said so far on this thread does not add up - as "spam", is a classic example of deflecting and dodging.

Gerald , i know you were livid about having been captured in the wild, but its ok now.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
more spam, i have said four times, that i cannot think of any that mention Jesus by
name, DO YOU UNDERSTAND GERALD, i cannot think of any that mention Jesus by
name and here it is again Gerald, I cannot think of any that mention Jesus by name
and one more time Gerald please write it down on a piece of paper, lick it and slap it to
your forehead, i cannot think of any that mention Jesus by name, you got that Gerald?

On page 2 you seemed to think that the fact that Jesus is not mentioned in Isaiah 2:2-4 precluded it from being a prophecy regarding the end days and Jesus's rule on earth. Now you have changed. Now you are claiming that the fact that "Jesus is not mentioned" in a passage is not a problem. Is this a stance that you have arrived at since page 2?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Gerald , i know you were livid about having been captured in the wild, but its ok now.

Page 4 and you are already dodging and deflecting repeatedly.

Originally posted by FMF
Spam?

Surely, trying to dismiss questions that make you uncomfortable - because what you have said so far on this thread does not add up - as "spam", is a classic example of deflecting and dodging.

you are an internet troll, you ask the same questions again and again, despite having
been given the answer, again and again, you are a troll, do you understand, your
questions have absolutely no real relevancy, if they had you would be trying to
understand like the rest of us, but they are not, they are merely intended to find some
discrepancy, its really the best you have, now if you do not mind, i would rather not
feed you troll and you can cry and make up any manner of excuses you like, i am
feeling uncomfortable asking your stupid irrelevance questions, i am deflecting, i am
unable to answer them, whatever you like Gerald, but i will not feed you, go and get a
banana from someone else, you are a time waster and time is too precious to spend
with you, sorry.

Originally posted by FMF
Page 4 and you are already dodging and deflecting repeatedly.

whatever Gerald

Originally posted by FMF
On page 2 you seemed to think that the fact that Jesus is not mentioned in Isaiah 2:2-4 precluded it from being a prophecy regarding the end days and Jesus's rule on earth. Now you have changed. Now you are claiming that the fact that "Jesus is not mentioned" in a passage is not a problem. Is this a stance that you have arrived at since page 2?

no i wondered why others might think it to be a messianic prophecy when Christ is not mentioned, why dont you tell me Gerald.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you are an internet troll, you ask the same questions again and again, despite having
been given the answer, again and again, you are a troll, do you understand, your
questions have absolutely no real relevancy, if they had you would be trying to
understand like the rest of us, but they are not, they are merely intended to find some
discrepan ...[text shortened]... na from someone else, you are a time waster and time is too precious to spend
with you, sorry.

Every one of my questions has been on topic. You seem to have either changed your opinion [since page 1 and 2] about the criteria for messianic prophecies, or you made a mistake and not admitting it is more important to to you than being coherent. As a result, your answers have been unclear and evasive. Why not just answer the question about the 400 messianic prophecies in a straight forward way, without the ad hominems?