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    14 Apr '17 19:59
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    God is not an elephant. ...
    The gods are less than elephants. We can touch elephants! Your beliefs are faith, do not peddle them as more than that.
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    15 Apr '17 02:28
    Originally posted by apathist
    The gods are less than elephants. We can touch elephants! Your beliefs are faith, do not peddle them as more than that.
    The proper application of faith is as powerful as the proper application of science.

    Faith is another kind of knowledge, just like science.
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    15 Apr '17 02:45
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Faith is another kind of knowledge, just like science.
    Is Hindu or Islamic faith a kind of knowledge just like science?
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    15 Apr '17 04:11
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    God is not an elephant.

    And man will be man. He always looks for acceptance from his peers and for the easy way out. The wise man looks for acceptance from God and is not afraid of a little hard work.

    "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

    Be ...[text shortened]... row is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." -- Matthew 7:13-14, KJV
    Ganesh is an elephant.
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    15 Apr '17 04:50
    Originally posted by Suzianne...
    This leads me to call faith, like science, another type of knowledge. ...
    Since you see that, surely you see that there are hundreds and thousands of faith beliefs going on.

    Everybody is seeing the same thing, just through cultural lenses.
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    15 Apr '17 04:54
    But the abrahamic religions say every other view is doomed. Jews (the chosen!), christians and muslims, have no room for anyone else.
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    15 Apr '17 07:11
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    The proper application of faith is as powerful as the proper application of science.

    Faith is another kind of knowledge, just like science.
    That's a bit of a stretch. Faith doesn't cure disease, improve crop yields, enable blood tranfusions, purify water, facilitate practically instantaneous communication over vast distance, allow us to fly, put men on the moon, develop vaccines, allow production of lenses to correct failing eyesight, etc. etc. etc. etc.

    Actually, the proper application of faith is nothing like as powerful as the proper application of science.
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    15 Apr '17 08:03
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    The proper application of faith is as powerful as the proper application of science.
    Faith is another kind of knowledge, just like science.
    Theists always want to equate religion with science.
    As equals.
    As alternatives.
    As different "kinds of Truth"

    They use scientific words such as power, energy and force.

    BS

    Religion has NOTHING
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    Suzianne: The proper application of faith is as powerful as the proper application of science. Faith is another kind of knowledge, just like science.

    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    That's a bit of a stretch. Faith doesn't cure disease, improve crop yields, enable blood tranfusions, purify water, facilitate practically instantaneous communication over vast distance, allow ...[text shortened]... n, develop vaccines, allow production of lenses to correct failing eyesight, etc. etc. etc. etc.
    Does any of this matter to doomsday Christians who think ~ and even hope ~ the world will "end" in their lifetimes?
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    15 Apr '17 08:46
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    Actually, the proper application of faith is nothing like as powerful as the proper application of science.
    Well, the proper application of faith - according to believers - makes them immortal, and the application of science has nothing as powerful as that to offer them. 😉
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    15 Apr '17 08:54
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    You slacker you have not read it have you!
    Have you read it all?
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    15 Apr '17 14:16
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    You keep telling yourself that Slacker while you offer up incense to an effigy of Darwin in your University shrines and read from the same hymn books with your abiogenesis creations myths and religious mantras. E=MC^2 All hail the God of Science, in you we put our hope. And yet ask it a question - Why the universe? and look it is absolutely bereft, Man what a bunch of spangles you materialists are.
    Abiogenesis creation is a myth, but Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden is historically rock solid?

    Gotcha.
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    15 Apr '17 18:46
    Originally posted by wolfgang59...
    Religion has NOTHING
    Does spirituality offer anything?

    Religion sits by the king. Dismissing it doesn't feel right.
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    15 Apr '17 18:59
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    The proper application of faith is as powerful as the proper application of science.

    Faith is another kind of knowledge, just like science.
    Yet you can't seem to answer simple logical questions about it.
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    15 Apr '17 19:16
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    Abiogenesis creation is a myth, but Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden is historically rock solid?

    Gotcha.
    You think either of one can be proven or do they both have to be believed and taken on faith?
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