Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke My point was to highlight the ridiculous labelling of Abiogenesis as myth, while holding to the whole talking snake thing.
The scripture lends itself to that charge in many places if you reject God completely.
Originally posted by KellyJay You think either of one can be proven or do they both have to be believed and taken on faith?
One has scientific evidence in its favour. The other doesn't. Neither should be taken on faith. If the evidence doesn't convince you, don't take it to be true. If you want to convince someone else of its truth, be prepared to provide evidence.
Originally posted by apathist But the abrahamic religions say every other view is doomed. Jews (the chosen!), christians and muslims, have no room for anyone else.
The further away you get from a water source, the less likely any water you find will belong to that source.
Originally posted by avalanchethecat That's a bit of a stretch. Faith doesn't cure disease, improve crop yields, enable blood tranfusions, purify water, facilitate practically instantaneous communication over vast distance, allow us to fly, put men on the moon, develop vaccines, allow production of lenses to correct failing eyesight, etc. etc. etc. etc.
Actually, the proper application of faith is nothing like as powerful as the proper application of science.
Faith DOES save people from destruction, though.
Not to mention allowing people to lead fulfilling lives and find purpose that could not have been discovered through their own efforts. Faith has the power to find the lost, to heal trauma, to mend broken hearts and broken lives and broken families. It brings the water of life to those who have only known unquenchable thirst.
Originally posted by wolfgang59 Theists always want to equate religion with science.
As equals.
As alternatives.
As different "kinds of Truth"
They use scientific words such as power, energy and force.
BS
Religion has NOTHING
Look past the obvious.
Faith is not equal to science.
They are both branches from the same tree, though.
Religion has something. The power to change the lives of ALL men, from every socioeconomic background. Rich and poor, strong and weak. Though dead, they can ALL live. Can science do that?
Originally posted by Suzianne Faith DOES save people from destruction, though.
Not to mention allowing people to lead fulfilling lives and find purpose that could not have been discovered through their own efforts. Faith has the power to find the lost, to heal trauma, to mend broken hearts and broken lives and broken families.
On this we mostly agree although I don’t think we can categorically know that people leading fulfilling lives and finding purpose through faith could not have discovered these things through their own efforts if they settle for religion and stop making "their own efforts".
Originally posted by Suzianne Faith DOES save people from destruction, though.
Not to mention allowing people to lead fulfilling lives and find purpose that could not have been discovered through their own efforts. Faith has the power to find the lost, to heal trauma, to mend broken hearts and broken lives and broken families. It brings the water of life to those who have only known unquenchable thirst.
How is that not easily as powerful?
I lost my faith and yet I still have purpose and a fulfilling life (and I have encountered many ex-believers who have had a similar life arc), so while faith can create meaning for people it is not necessarily indispensable.
15 Apr '17 21:13
Most Evolutionists have not read Origin of Species
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