My pastor is a secret Atheist

Originally posted by KellyJay
If just saying you were a Christian is how you define the faith
that there is nothing real about, then you can claim whatever you want to about it.

I accept what you "claim" about your Christianity in good faith. Why can't you return the courtesy?

Originally posted by FMF
I accept what you "claim" about your Christianity in good faith. Why can't you return the courtesy?

I don't because something real changed my life around, not an opinion, not good
or bad doctrine. I got saved when I was 25, I didn't go to church before that I was
into all kinds of nasty things that made me feel good. For over 30 years now Jesus
Christ has been faithful to me and my family through good times and some of the
worst times anyone can imagine. Jesus is real to me and He has kept me going
when I nothing in this world could help. You deny Him with how you define being a
Christian, to you it seems He is only a nice guy who died a long tiime ago, not the
Son of God who is here today and always has been.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
For over 30 years now Jesus
Christ has been faithful to me and my family through good times and some of the
worst times anyone can imagine. Jesus is real to me and He has kept me going
when I nothing in this world could help.

And just why should I take your word for it on any of this?

Originally posted by FMF
And just why should I take your word for it on any of this?

You don't have to take my word for anything, as you don't anyone else.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
You don't have to take my word for anything, as you don't anyone else.

Well, for now, I've decided to take a leaf out of your book when I converse with you. I will address you as you address me. Here you go: I don't have to take your word for anything; your claims to be a Christian are neither here nor there. They are just your claims, that's all.

There how's that? We're both on the same page now.

Originally posted by FMF
Well, for now, I've decided to take a leaf out of your book when I converse with you. I will address you as you address me. Here you go: I don't have to take your word for anything; your claims to be a Christian are neither here nor there. They are just your claims, that's all.

There how's that? We're both on the same page now.

I've never asked you to take my word for anything.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
You see logic errors in what I told you?

I see conceited piety that I do not want to emulate.

As for which 'logic error' you are using, at least three posters have pointed out that you are using the No True Scotsman logical fallacy.

Originally posted by FMF
I see conceited piety that I do not want to emulate.

As for which 'logic error' you are using, at least three posters have pointed out that you are using the No True Scotsman logical fallacy.

We have gone over the flip flop you have done before I see no reason to
repeat it.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
We have gone over the flip flop you have done before I see no reason to
repeat it.
Kelly

I am starting to think you don't actually know what the No True Scotsman logical fallacy is.