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Originally posted by Rajk999shut it, your gay! infact i heard you changed your name to Rajina, pink princess of the Gay Lords! and have now been petitioning the church for the ordination of others of a similar inclination.
Im very happy you are gay and proud. I admire your courage.
I did not realise you were gay. I have a whole new respect for you.
Originally posted by galveston75Here are a few internal inconsistencies:
So, still your own opinion on plausibility and there are no contadictions in the Bible. It has been discussed many times on many threads here and everyone can and has been proverd wrong. But give it a try if you must even though this is not the subject of this thread....
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.html
http://www.evilbible.com/Biblical%20Contradictions.htm
Some are minor gaffes (e.g. disagreement on what colour Jesus' robe was), but some are fairly central (e.g. God is good, but he created evil as per Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.", and God speaks the truth and must be obeyed except when he's lying as per Ezekiel 20:25 "Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live;"😉.
There are other issues too, like the creation myth being contradicted by modern dating techniques and the fact that there isn't enough water in the world to account for the flood, etc...
The main thrust of the bible is fine, in that being a generally "good person" is a good thing. The problem is that people take it too literally. Contradictions and inconsistencies in the bible are a warning signal that the truth of the text cannot be assumed.
Originally posted by PBE6Hmm. The infidels.org site seems to be trying too hard, e.g.
Here are a few internal inconsistencies:
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.html
http://www.evilbible.com/Biblical%20Contradictions.htm
Some are minor gaffes (e.g. disagreement on what colour Jesus' robe was), but some are fairly central (e.g. God is good, but he created evil as per Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and cre ...[text shortened]... tencies in the bible are a warning signal that the truth of the text cannot be assumed.
Note: That God should be displeased is inconsistent with the concept of omniscience.I don't see how the conclusion follows. Think of a relative with a drinking problem. Even though you may know in advance that they're going to drink themselves to ruin, it's still highly displeasing once they actually do it.
Originally posted by PBE6I'm at work now but will answer your questions later..Thanks.
Here are a few internal inconsistencies:
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.html
http://www.evilbible.com/Biblical%20Contradictions.htm
Some are minor gaffes (e.g. disagreement on what colour Jesus' robe was), but some are fairly central (e.g. God is good, but he created evil as per Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and cre ...[text shortened]... tencies in the bible are a warning signal that the truth of the text cannot be assumed.
Originally posted by PBE6I'm still at work but I'll answer the one about the flood because it's easy. Scientist say that the water we have on earth today including underground, ice caps and in the atmosphere is still the same amount that has always been. Agree?
Here are a few internal inconsistencies:
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.html
http://www.evilbible.com/Biblical%20Contradictions.htm
Some are minor gaffes (e.g. disagreement on what colour Jesus' robe was), but some are fairly central (e.g. God is good, but he created evil as per Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and cre ...[text shortened]... tencies in the bible are a warning signal that the truth of the text cannot be assumed.
So is it not possible that the water was stored somewhat differently then we see it today? The Bible actually answers that in Genesis.
One huge source of the waters for Noah’s flood was from heaven or to us an area above the earth. Genesis 7:12 says that it rained for 40 days and 40 nights continuously. So for the amount of water it would take to rain for that amount of time would be more then the normal amount of moisture that is in our atmosphere today. During the creation of the earth Genesis 1:6 describes a watery division with an expanse in between where the surface of the earth would be. So there were oceans at that time but no doubt in a smaller scale then today.
Also the earth was no doubt flatter then after the flood. That's why they are able to find ocean life fossils on Mt. Everest as well as other high mountains around the world. They were once at or below the sea level at that time.
But with the tremendous amount of weight that the floods waters would place on the surface of the earth and with some areas of the earth's mantel being weaker then others, that would cause many areas to sink and many other areas to rise. That's how the mountains we see today have grown to such great heights.
I read once that if the earth was totally flat, that the oceans would completely cover the earth under a depth of around 200", I believe. I could be wrong with that number but the point is it would completely cover the earth.
Also I found this about the water under the surface of the earth.
"The Genesis account speaks of that water coming to the surface to add to the flood waters.Now that the question of where the water came from is cleared up, the next question is, where did it all go? This is actually quite simple, thanks to the work of a group of Japanese scientists at the Tokyo Institute of technology. The December 1999 edition of Discover magazine reported their incredible find. With no intention of helping creationism, they inadvertently discovered that the earth’s mantle is soaking up the world’s oceans at the rate of a billion tons of water a year! The soluble, permeable rock of the lower crust and upper mantle are soaking up the oceans like a sponge. If this trend of a billion tons of water a year has been continuing since the Flood, an amazing sum of 5 x 1012, or 5,000,000,000,000, or 5 TRILLION TONS of water have been absorbed in the last five thousand years. To put this into more understood terms, since a gallon of water weighs a couple, say four, pounds, in the last five thousand years, the earth has absorbed 5,000,000,000,000,000, or 5 QUADRILLION GALLONS of water! Of course the water from the Flood wouldn’t be here today!"
Interesting stuff. So the amount of water is on this planet and more then enough for God to use to flood it.
Originally posted by galveston75excellent stuff my friend !
I'm still at work but I'll answer the one about the flood because it's easy. Scientist say that the water we have on earth today including underground, ice caps and in the atmosphere is still the same amount that has always been. Agree?
So is it not possible that the water was stored somewhat differently then we see it today? The Bible actually answers ...[text shortened]... the amount of water is on this planet and more then enough for God to use to flood it.
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Originally posted by galveston75(nice to see you take liberties at work to furthur our spiritual understanding🙂 )
I'm still at work but I'll answer the one about the flood because it's easy. Scientist say that the water we have on earth today including underground, ice caps and in the atmosphere is still the same amount that has always been. Agree?
So is it not possible that the water was stored somewhat differently then we see it today? The Bible actually answers the amount of water is on this planet and more then enough for God to use to flood it.
So you qoute from scientific mags now, (maybe Mr.Hyde is in control now), good for you.
I see a light openning up somewhere...
So what do you think caused the flood? Meteorite?
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Originally posted by karoly aczelJehovah God.... And there is nothing wrong with science that is true.
(nice to see you take liberties at work to furthur our spiritual understanding🙂 )
So you qoute from scientific mags now, (maybe Mr.Hyde is in control now), good for you.
I see a light openning up somewhere...
So what do you think caused the flood? Meteorite?