Originally posted by Suzianne Since offspring was created, I guess it had to be physical, don't you think?
Well I don't know? If they were angels, how does that happen, if men it's obvious. The Bible speaks of Mary (mother of Jesus) getting pregnant without the help of man. Do you believe that is true/possible?
Originally posted by kd2acz I have heard of this before and seen the pictures. I found the following on Snopes which refutes the claims, not that I fully trust Snopes.
Concrete scientific evidence that there are people out there who can use photoshop and that some other people are very gullible. Not you, surely, dive?
Originally posted by kd2acz Well I don't know? If they were angels, how does that happen, if men it's obvious. The Bible speaks of Mary (mother of Jesus) getting pregnant without the help of man. Do you believe that is true/possible?
Angels have been known to take human form.
And yes, of course. Mary was a virgin and became with child with no help from a man. Her child was God's son. He was necessarily born without sin. Miracles become possible when God or His agents roam the earth.
Originally posted by kd2acz I have heard of this before and seen the pictures. I found the following on Snopes which refutes the claims, not that I fully trust Snopes.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/odd/giantman.asp
The reason seems to make sense however.
-K
Well, the Nephilim were not quite *that* big. They were bigger and stronger than normal men, however.
Originally posted by stellspalfie wiki says they lived in caanan, i wonder if that has anything to do with gods hatred of the caananites?
No. God wanted the people living in Canaan as the Hebrews arrived from Egypt eliminated because of their worship of other gods. They were abominations in God's eyes.
Originally posted by Suzianne Au contraire, mon frere.
Not necessarily. These were fallen angels, and therefore already evil. It might not have taken much to get them ready to go, if you get my meaning.
Although I do remember reading something (I can't remember from where) about the sons of God looking upon the daughters of men and "finding them fair".
Maybe that is the reason they became known as fallen angels.
Originally posted by Suzianne Well, the Nephilim were not quite *that* big. They were bigger and stronger than normal men, however.
Well the pictures are clearly a hoax, but I have heard different people speak on the subject of Nephilim... some with wild ideas. Some believe there is a connection between nephilim, extraterrestials and UFO's. Ever hear of Chuck Missler? Who knows?
There are two main lines of thought or theology concerning the nephilim. One is that these were the sons of Seth but in context that does not make a lot of sense. The other is that they were indeed a hybrid between angels and humans. In tbat context what or why would these angels want to do this? I would agree that it would be to pollute the line to Christ. If we look at tbe book of Enoch it speaks of these things. I know that the book of Enoch is a questioned book among orthodox Christians but it's quoted by Jude in tbe new testement so we at least know that it was an acknowledged book by Jewish minds of that day. Some argue that angels are spiritual beings and can't mix with flesh but how do we really know what these beings can do ? We know they can interact with this world and have on occasion. Look at Job being inflicted with boils by Satan. Also the term "Sons of God" used in Genesis 6 is the same terms used in Job and it is used to speak of these beings namely angels. I believe the word nephilim means to fall on.
Originally posted by RJHinds Maybe that is the reason they became known as fallen angels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GAlMSWX5eI
No, Ron, they were called fallen angels because they had fallen from Grace, being part of the third of the Host that followed Lucifer out the door of Heaven.
Originally posted by Suzianne No, Ron, they were called fallen angels because they had fallen from Grace, being part of the third of the Host that followed Lucifer out the door of Heaven.
2 thousand years from now people will be looking at these biblical fairy tales in the same light as we look at the gods of Rome or Greece.
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