Originally posted by SwissGambitI will, I'll just point them to the wiki article.
You have no point.
By deliberately using the term 'self-serving' with a meaning you know is very uncommon, all you do is confuse people. Have fun explaining what you really mean to every new person who joins the thread.
Originally posted by broblutoIt's a flaw because we're not talking about some metaphysical being like God, or the Tooth Fairy, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster. We're talking about human beings and their motivations. We ought to be able to have a more concrete discussion on this [compared to God], because we have very much more real evidence at our disposal.
It's a flaw in who's eyes? I think non-falsifiable is more of a belief than anything. God's existence is non-falsifiable, is it not?
Originally posted by SwissGambitLike what? There's no evidence for or against. Only speculation.
It's a flaw because we're not talking about some metaphysical being like God, or the Tooth Fairy, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster. We're talking about human beings and their motivations. We ought to be able to have a more concrete discussion on this [compared to God], because we have very much more real evidence at our disposal.
Originally posted by SwissGambitThe man with the gun could easily shoot her after he shoots you.
Well, yes, the heart of the disagreement is the meaning of words like "selfish" and "self-interest".
In the case of your [hypothetical] daughter, you have no idea if your action will really save her. The man with the gun could easily shoot her after he shoots you. Nevertheless, your concern for her was so strong that you did everything in your power t ...[text shortened]... led selfish.
I'm in complete agreement with the last sentence of your post, of course.
He only has the one bullet.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungThere was no one event and I have discussed this here too. I felt a
How about that event that brought you to Christ which you have in the past refused to discuss?
call on my life I could not shake and I answered after a long struggle
and God was there. Before I got saved I had just gotten out of the
Navy, I was a summer help pipe fiter working at a power plant
making great money with no bills. I was partying almost every night,
with friends and some of my brothers. I did have one of those "God
if you get me out of this events" occur in the Navy, and I did get out
of it, but I didn't keep my word to God then. The only thing that really
did was get God and I on talking terms. I did cut back on the way
I was living my life, but only a small degree.
I use to go home after partying and watch TV before sleeping, I
started watching a Christian show at night, but if I heard anyone in
the house I'd change the channel because I didn't want anyone to
know I was remotely interested in that. One night they asked if you
wanted God in your life call, I called and got a recording the show
was on but no one was home. During that time I remembered
reading an ad in the paper, someone put their home phone number
in the paper saying if you are tired of talking to recordings and you
want to talk to a true live person about a true live God call.
After my call and recording I thought I’d look in the paper the next
days to see if that ad was still there, it was, I called, and met them
in their home, got saved and filled with the Holy Spirit that night, and
that was around 1979/80 I don't remember now if it was before or
after the New Year, but I lean toward before the New Year.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayThank you!
There was no one event and I have discussed this here too. I felt a
call on my life I could not shake and I answered after a long struggle
and God was there. Before I got saved I had just gotten out of the
Navy, I was a summer help pipe fiter working at a power plant
making great money with no bills. I was partying almost every night,
with friends and ...[text shortened]... now if it was before or
after the New Year, but I lean toward before the New Year.
Kelly