12 Apr 05
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I don't know if I believ in God. My family is religious. I go to church and I feel good after I have gone. I pray. But I don't believe in miracles. I don't believe that God causes bad things or good things to happen to people. I don't believe in Heaven or Hell.
And yet, I am a spiritual person. I am in awe of life on earth. I am amazed at how it all works. I feel most spiritual with nature, not humans. It worries and upsets me that I don't believe in God. But I am not sure that there is a God.
12 Apr 05
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Originally posted by elvendreamgirlWhat a sec, you don't believe in God or you don't know if you believe in God? It has to be one or the other.
I don't know if I believ in God. My family is religious. I go to church and I feel good after I have gone. I pray. But I don't believe in miracles. I don't believe that God causes bad things or good things to happen to people. I d ...[text shortened]... at I don't believe in God. But I am not sure that there is a God.
12 Apr 05
Originally posted by elvendreamgirlIt sounds like you have the expectation that you dutifully should believe in God, and yet that hasn't been the case in your heart. These things can't be forced. Better to let the question simmer while you remain rightfully in awe of the wonder you experience everywhere. You are a kind person from what I can gather. Let confidence in your own good heart guide you for now.
It worries and upsets me that I don't believe in God. But I am not sure that there is a God.
12 Apr 05
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Originally posted by darvlayHere, here.
Well, join the club. 🙂
Personally, I don't believe in the Christian God, but I am not so quick to doubt the existence of a higher power that we are not aware of.
One of the many reasons I can't accept a Christian God, is the thought of all non-Christians, who never had a chance of being exposed to Christianity due to sociological reasons beyond their control, being doomed for all eternity.
There's going to be an awful lot of decent, kind-hearted, spiritual people of non-Christian denominations fuelling hell's furnaces until the end of time, simply because they were born in the wrong country, or in the wrong family. At least it'll keep everyone in Heaven warm anyway...
12 Apr 05
Originally posted by PawnCurryI recall having this exact debate with dj2becker in a thread called "How can a God of love send somebody to hell" or something like that... I didn't really get the answers I was looking for. Perhaps it's time to open up a new discussion?
Here, here.
One of the many reasons I can't accept a Christian God, is the thought of all non-Christians, who never had a chance of being exposed to Christianity due to sociological reasons beyond their control, being doomed for all eternity.
There's going to be an awful lot of decent, kind-hearted, spiritual people of non-Christian denominations f ...[text shortened]... he wrong country, or in the wrong family. At least it'll keep everyone in Heaven warm anyway...
12 Apr 05
Originally posted by darvlayYou can try it if you like, and I'd be willing to contribute, but do you honestly think it's possible to have reasoned debate on such matters with (you've named him) dj2becker, and Darfius (there, I've named him)?
I recall having this exact debate with dj2becker in a thread called "How can a God of love send somebody to hell" or something like that... I didn't really get the answers I was looking for. Perhaps it's time to open up a new discussion?
12 Apr 05
Originally posted by sasquatch672Big rec for Sasquatch!!!
Tell you what...I was raised Irish Catholic and I can't tell you the last time I've been to church. I have real problems with organized religion. But I too consider myself to be a very spiritual person, and my argument for the existence of God comes from a few different angles.
First, I'm a chemical engineer by profession. An engineer's stud ...[text shortened]... on this lovely rock. What happens when the bus comes? It's the greatest adventure of all!
12 Apr 05
Originally posted by sasquatch672This sounds spiritual to me, gets a rec.
Tell you what...I was raised Irish Catholic and I can't tell you the last time I've been to church. I have real problems with organized religion. But I too consider myself to be a very spiritual person, and my argument for the existence of God comes from a few different angles.
First, I'm a chemical engineer by profession. An engineer's stud ...[text shortened]... on this lovely rock. What happens when the bus comes? It's the greatest adventure of all!
12 Apr 05
Originally posted by PawnCurryWhat's that supposed to mean? ðŸ˜
You can try it if you like, and I'd be willing to contribute, but do you honestly think it's possible to have reasoned debate on such matters with (you've named him) dj2becker, and Darfius (there, I've named him)?
I resemble that remark...
12 Apr 05
Originally posted by elvendreamgirl“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has showed it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse.”
I don't know if I believ in God. My family is religious. I go to church and I feel good after I have gone. I pray. But I don't believe in miracles. I don't believe that God causes bad things or good things to happen to people. I don't believe in Heaven or Hell.
And yet, I am a spiritual person. I am in awe of life on earth. I am amazed at how it ...[text shortened]... s. It worries and upsets me that I don't believe in God. But I am not sure that there is a God.
~ Romans 1:18-20
Job 12:7-9 says, “‘But now ask the beasts, and they will teach you; and the birds of the air, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you; and the fish of the sea will explain to you. Who among all these does not know that the hand of the Lord has done this..?”
Psalms 19:1-4: “The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows His handiwork. Day unto day utters speech, and night unto night reveals knowledge. There is no speech nor language where their voice is not heard. Their line has gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world.”
Psalm 14:1 "The fool says in his heart, There is no God.'