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    03 Jul '09 11:46
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    'Truth is absolute'. Is this a meaningful statement?
    Can you elaborate?
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    03 Jul '09 11:50
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    Can you elaborate?
    What does 'Truth is absolute' mean? Can I say 'water is absolute'?
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    03 Jul '09 12:06
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    What does 'Truth is absolute' mean? Can I say 'water is absolute'?
    Just that it isn't relative like many seem to believe. There exists an ultimate truth that is reality.
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    03 Jul '09 12:11
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    Just that it isn't relative like many seem to believe. There exists an ultimate truth that is reality.
    Nope; all states of being are determined by mind😵
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    03 Jul '09 12:12
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    Just that it isn't relative like many seem to believe. There exists an ultimate truth that is reality.
    Can you substantiate this bald assertion?
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    03 Jul '09 12:32
    Originally posted by black beetle
    Nope; all states of being are determined by mind😵
    After the fire devours all, it consumes itself.
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    03 Jul '09 12:38
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Can you substantiate this bald assertion?
    Is there a reality that is not reality?
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    03 Jul '09 12:42
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Can you substantiate this bald assertion?
    Truth with a capital 't' is what i feel in the pit of my stomach, it is my connection with reality.
    As soon as i think or talk(or type)about it,it becomes relative.
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    03 Jul '09 12:44
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    Is there a reality that is not reality?
    That's not a great way of substantiating your bald assertion that 'There exists an ultimate truth that is reality'.

    If I restate your sentence, I get 'reality is truth' or 'truth is reality', which I find tautological.
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    03 Jul '09 12:57
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    After the fire devours all, it consumes itself.
    Not exactly -you may go stranded if you try to give shape to your idea based on the symbol/ element known as fire; it 's easier to meditate through conceiving the Void inside you I reckon😵
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    03 Jul '09 13:16
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    That's not a great way of substantiating your bald assertion that 'There exists an ultimate truth that is reality'.

    If I restate your sentence, I get 'reality is truth' or 'truth is reality', which I find tautological.
    You're just creating a straw man.

    Take the entire assertion all together:
    "Just that it isn't relative like many seem to believe. There exists an ultimate truth that is reality."

    If you're going to restate it, then restate it in such a way that it captures the essence of the entire assertion.
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    03 Jul '09 13:40
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    Is there a reality that is not reality?
    The nature of "truth" is experiential and is related to all intentional activity carried out by whoever tries to find the so called "truth".
    Thus: no intentionality for such an action means no activity within the fundamental cognitive-experiential field of reality; and then, the potentiality of the so called "truth" to emerge into full experiential reality is out of order😵
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    03 Jul '09 15:58
    Originally posted by black beetle
    The nature of "truth" is experiential and is related to all intentional activity carried out by whoever tries to find the so called "truth".
    Thus: no intentionality for such an action means no activity within the fundamental cognitive-experiential field of reality; and then, the potentiality of the so called "truth" to emerge into full experiential reality is out of order😵
    I'm not sure because I found some of this worded awkwardly, but aren't you basically putting limits on what 'truth' can be and then drawing conclusions from that?
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    03 Jul '09 16:39
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    I'm not sure because I found some of this worded awkwardly, but aren't you basically putting limits on what 'truth' can be and then drawing conclusions from that?
    Nope; all I say is that all states of being are determined by mind, truth included😵
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    wanna play blitz beetle? if you do, just Pm me, and we shall play!
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