Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Jesus taught that righteousness, i.e., one cannot continue to sin, is required for "eternal life"/"heaven"/"salvation". Was Jesus also clueless that "we are still under Adamic sin and in an imperfect state"?
So, in your opinion, what's the dividing line for "eternal life"/"heaven"/"salvation"? How much sin is too much? Which sins are permissible and which aren't?
the defining line is this, that there is practice of sin, knowingly and in full recognition, which is condemned and there are involuntary sins, which we cannot, due to our imperfection, help but commit. You really must try to get a handle on this thinkofone.
(1 John 3:4-9) . . .Everyone who practices sin
is also practising lawlessness, and so sin is lawlessness. You know too that that one was made manifest to take away our sins, and there is no sin in him. Everyone remaining in union with him does not practice sin; no one that practices sin has either seen him or come to know him. Little children, let no one mislead you; he who carries on righteousness is righteous, just as that one is righteous. He who carries on sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, namely, to break up the works of the Devil.
thus it is self evident that those who practice sin, in full recognition are condemned and synonymous with Satan.
however please note, Paul words which described the conflicts that each individual christians strives to overcome, sinful tendency
(Romans 7:21-25) I find, then, this law in my case: that when I wish to do what is right, what is bad is present with me. I really delight in the law of God according to the man I am within, but I behold in my members another law warring against the law of my mind and leading me captive to sin’s law
that is in my members. Miserable man that I am! Who will rescue me from the body undergoing this death? Thanks to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So, then, with my mind I myself am a slave to God’s law, but with my flesh to sin’s law. . .
thus Paul realised that there is a conflict within everyone, 'sins law', due to imperfection inherited through Adam which ultimately leads to condemnation and at this time death (anyone here not dying?, nope) and the Law of God leading him towards righteousness which he takes great delight in trying to achieve.