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Obedience vs Disobedience

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Are you seriously just trying to act daft? Moral values are for humans. Would you follow the same rules that you have for your kids?

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Morals are rules that define right and wrong willed conduct.

Did you sleep through your ethics classes?

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Not at all, did you just blindly accept everything your learnt without thinking about it yourself?


Originally posted by @dj2becker
Not at all, did you just blindly accept everything your learnt without thinking about it yourself?
This is a bit ironic coming from you.

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This kind of rape was something robbie carrobie endorsed for 30-40 thread pages once although he later seemed to want people to think it was just one of his cheeky chappie rhetorical "comedy" routines. He also had "comedy" discourse routines about the benefits of covering up child sex abuse and about lynching black people.
Originally posted by @avalanchethecat
Yes, that was an amusing about-face.

robbie used to regularly extol the virtues of marriage in Indian culture (for its low divorce rate) even though people here alerted him, repeatedly, to the grotesquely high rates of marital rape, domestic violence, and the systematic social and economic discrimination against divorced women.

That was when he started his 'marital rape is logically impossible ~ marriage vows are de facto consent to accept being forced to have sex by the husband even when the woman doesn't want to' (the gist, not verbatim, the thread can be tracked down) and he even quoted the Bible to support this ghastly misogynyst ideology.

Later, he pretended that it all had been a case of him simply intellectualizing. As far as I know, he still lionizes India as a paradigm for marriage, despite the appallingly high number of rapes, beatings, and divorced women tossed into the gutter and ostricized.

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He is the creator I am the creation, He gives life and takes it away. He is all powerful, I am not, He is omniscient, I am not. I am confined by time and space, He is not. All of history is layed out before Him, how could we possibly be equal and subject to the same rules?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
He is the creator I am the creation, He gives life and takes it away. He is all powerful, I am not, He is omniscient, I am not. I am confined by time and space, He is not. All of history is layed out before Him, how could we possibly be equal and subject to the same rules?
Do you believe these assertions have some sort of moral content? I get that you think your assertions are true, that's a given, but I am interested as to whether you think the claims you are making have moral substance and coherence? If so, what?

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Originally posted by @fmf
Originally posted by @avalanchethecat
[b]Yes, that was an amusing about-face.


robbie used to regularly extol the virtues of marriage in Indian culture (for its low divorce rate) even though people here alerted him, repeatedly, to the grotesquely high rates of marital rape, domestic violence, and the systematic social and economic discrimination a ...[text shortened]... lingly high number of rapes, beatings, and divorced women tossed into the gutter and ostricized.[/b]
It must be difficult to rationalise one's logic and reason if one holds scripture as sacred. I would imagine that the more intellectual religionists (and Robbie, for all his faults, is clearly one of those) must frequently find themselves morally obliged to defend positions which their reason finds indefensible, and the converse too. It's no surprise that some of them seem to lose a cog or two now and again.