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Originally posted by @fmfWhich answer specifically did I ignore? As I said before if you had in fact answered it and it was worth repeating you would.
I have answered it. You have simply ignored my answers. Asking me over and over again, you pretending that I haven't given you my answer and explained it, is just artless trolling on your part.
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Originally posted by @dj2beckerThe ones I gave when we discussed this before. I don't need to repeat myself. I feel I explained my stance clearly. You don't need to repeat the questions over and over again as if I didn't.
Which answer specifically did I ignore?
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Originally posted by @dj2beckerThis is one of your trolling punchlines.
... if you had in fact answered it and it was worth repeating you would.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerNot really. It's just me refusing to jump through the silly hoop you have used, instead of engaging in genuine discourse, since back when you were posting as Fetchmyjunk. Perhaps it was a tactic you learned from the people who abused you until you were 24.
This is your dodge punchline.
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Originally posted by @fmfAgain just more insults and no answers. What's your excuse?
Not really. It's just me refusing to jump through the silly hoop you have used, instead of engaging in genuine discourse, since back when you were posting as Fetchmyjunk. Perhaps it was a tactic you learned from the people who abused you until you were 24.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI am trying to talk to you on the level about a topic that interests me but without indulging your clumsy ignore-ask-again-ignore-ask-again trolling style.
Again just more insults and no answers. What's your excuse?
You know what I think about the labels/adjectives you attach to your personal opinions about morality. You know that I am nonplussed by the effect you think it has on the gravitas of your beliefs.
You know what I think about rape. You know what I think about the Nazis. You know what I think "evil" is. You know what I think about genocide. You know what I think about torturing babies. You know what I think about ISIS.
You know what I think about the source and purpose of morality is, why it varies, how it adapts, all explained in full. You know what I think about when different moral codes compete or clash. You know what I think about moral codes driven by a belief in supernatural causality.
You know all these things. You don't need to ask me questions about these things over and over again. You repeat yourself instead of engaging.
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Originally posted by @fmfOf course I know all those things, but none of them answer the question I just asked you.
I am trying to talk to you on the level about a topic that interests me but without indulging your clumsy ignore-ask-again-ignore-ask-again trolling style.
You know what I think about the labels/adjectives you attach to your personal opinions about morality. You know that I am nonplussed by the effect you think it has on the gravitas of your beliefs.
Yo ...[text shortened]... sk me questions about these things over and over again. You repeat yourself instead of engaging.
So, let's put the whole thing of you forgetting that we had discussed things behind us. And see if we can move the conversation forward.
You seem to believe that these assertions have moral content:
A) God exists.
B) God created the universe.
C) God put laws in place that govern the universe.
D) God's creation is subject to the laws of the universe because they are part of the universe that God created.
E) God is not subject to the laws of the universe because he is not part of the universe.
In a similar way and for a similar reason, do you think these assertions have moral content:
A) God exists and created other beings that exist.
B) God put laws in place that apply to everything that exists.
C) God is subject to those laws because he exists.
I'm not interested in your red herring about gravity.
"Laws" refer to morality.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYou concede that you know all those things. Good. We have made progress. I will refer back to this if you slip back into the ignore-ask-again-ignore-ask-again routine.
Of course I know all those things, but none of them answer the question I just asked you.
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Originally posted by @fmfYou totally missed the point.
So, let's put the whole thing of you forgetting that we had discussed things behind us. And see if we can move the conversation forward.
You seem to believe that these assertions have moral content:
A) God exists.
B) God created the universe.
C) God put laws in place that govern the universe.
D) God's creation is subject to the laws of the universe ...[text shortened]... e exists.
I'm not interested in your red herring about gravity.
"Laws" refer to morality.
The premises I made were to explain to Dive why I think God does not have to be bound by the laws of the universe. They have nothing to do with moral content.
I have explained to you why I reject your premises. If anything you are the one not reading my posts.
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Originally posted by @fmfNone of those things which I know you have said answer the question I asked you.
You concede that you know all those things. Good. We have made progress. I will refer back to this if you slip back into the ignore-ask-again-ignore-ask-again routine.
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Originally posted by @dj2beckerThey have nothing to do with moral content? Oh I see. So your A B C D E assertions have nothing to do with morality, whether it be morality as it pertains to humans or the morality that they perceive as pertaining to their god figure? So when you refer to the "laws of the universe" you are specifically excluding morality from them?
You totally missed the point.
The premises I made were to explain to Dive why I think God does not have to be bound by the laws of the universe. They have nothing to do with moral content.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerWhich question are you on about now?
None of those things which I know you have said answer the question I asked you.
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Originally posted by @fmfYou yourself said morality only pertains to humans, or does it now apply to God when it suits you? Since Dive is supposedly a Christian I was talking to Him within the context of his Christian faith.
They have nothing to do with moral content? Oh I see. So your A B C D E assertions have nothing to do with morality, whether it be morality as it pertains to humans or the morality that they perceive as pertaining to their god figure? So when you refer to the "laws of the universe" you are specifically excluding morality from them?