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Originally posted by KellyJay
The universe is what it is with respect to its age, if God is true and let us know it is young
or old and we took it upon ourselves to reject those claims, that would not mean that God is
false, but we are not all that bright!
Saying that we are not that bright is rather diplomatic. The Bible just flat out says we are sheep. I suppose it sounds better than calling us all lemmings.

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Originally posted by whodey
Saying that we are not that bright is rather diplomatic. The Bible just flat out says we are sheep. I suppose it sounds better than calling us all lemmings.
I just listened to a brit sing a funny song about the universe, black holes and other science stuff, it concluded 'there must be intelligent life out there in the universe because their is buggerall here'🙂 I wish I could remember the dude's name. We were having car trouble yesterday and were a bit distracted by that, barely made it home.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
I just listened to a brit sing a funny song about the universe, black holes and other science stuff, it concluded 'there must be intelligent life out there in the universe because their is buggerall here'🙂 I wish I could remember the dude's name. We were having car trouble yesterday and were a bit distracted by that, barely made it home.
Its a Monty Python song from 'The Meaning of Life'.



The song is not entirely accurate but then the final comment kind of caters for that.

You may also enjoy this version by Stephen Hawking:

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Originally posted by twhitehead
Its a Monty Python song from 'The Meaning of Life'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk

The song is not entirely accurate but then the final comment kind of caters for that.

You may also enjoy this version by Stephen Hawking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfcC6FYyL4U
Ah, thanks, nice video! Hadn't seen that one.


Originally posted by wolfgang59
Just to confuse us? Or as a joke?
I honestly agree..... I think many creationist just have this mentality that God did it and that's it! I'm saying they need to start with the premise that God is not deceptive ( or He is) and that it's safe to look at what we know in physics and Cosmology and understand it.... I really doubt the speed of light has ever changed otherwise all that we know would have to change......I feel many times creationist are willing to bend science beyond what is factual which bothers me....

Manny

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Originally posted by whodey
Saying that we are not that bright is rather diplomatic. The Bible just flat out says we are sheep. I suppose it sounds better than calling us all lemmings.
My point is still if we come up with an age of the universe that is on us not God, if we look at
the universe or even some little bits of it and come up with an age of the universe that is on
us not God. Calling God a liar suggests He lied about the age, when all He did was create
it and we took it upon ourselves to date the universe.

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Originally posted by menace71
I honestly agree..... I think many creationist just have this mentality that God did it and that's it! I'm saying they need to start with the premise that God is not deceptive ( or He is) and that it's safe to look at what we know in physics and Cosmology and understand it.... I really doubt the speed of light has ever changed otherwise all that we know ...[text shortened]... s creationist are willing to bend science beyond what is factual which bothers me....

Manny
What bothers me is that some think they know how to date the universe when they do not
know how it began. Since they don't know how it began than how again do they know
what to look at to date it? If it didn't come about like some's theories suggest than all of
the data points they are trusting in are all bogus with respect to dating the universe. If that
doesn't give you pause, well go on believing you have all know need to know to date the
universe. If the universe were young and it was shown to us all that it was, that would
prove those that thought they knew what was correct would be in error. It is a simple
matter of not trusting completely what you really don't have any knowledge about.

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Originally posted by whodey
But I've pointed out the terms that have not been missed.

Granted, not everyone has understood them, but then, you could say that about anything written in the Bible.
I'm in a very busy time right now it will be at least a week before I get to string together the
time I want to look at your post. I don't read Hebrew, so for me it will be slow going.

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Where do sand come from. Rocks fall off cliffs and are bashed about in the sea and become pebbles.
Do pebbles become bashed about and become sand.

Not sure where I read this but there are meant to be more stars up there than garains of sand on Earth


Originally posted by sonhouse
So it's ok for you to call any number of people 'numbnuts' but have her sling one pejorative, and you freak out. I think the term here is hypocrite,
I believe Suzianne means well, but this is not the first time she has slung a pejorative my way. I am not freaking out about it, because I can take it like a man. The fact that I have called some people, including you, 'numbnuts' has nothing to do with this.

The point I was trying to make is that this is a new year and we Christians could be working together by reasoning instead of dividing through emotions. 😏

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I believe Suzianne means well, but this is not the first time she has slung a pejorative my way. I am not freaking out about it, because I can take it like a man. The fact that I have called some people, including you, 'numbnuts' has nothing to do with this.

The point I was trying to make is that this is a new year and we Christians could be working together by reasoning instead of dividing through emotions. 😏
Ah. Reasoning. Not your top skill. You are just interested in plying the same old trade, nothing new in your so-called reasoning.

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OMG these guys are playing Chess; a game against eachother
In the Forums of Love Sand and Devotion


Originally posted by menace71
Humphrey's theory included the possibility of a white hole ( opposite of a black hole ) but I watched him in an interview and as with any theory he admitted that his theory was not perfect and could have flaws .......I think for creationist sometimes they jump on some crazy theory and ignore physics and laws to prove that the earth is young .....however if ...[text shortened]... always start from the premise that God is not a deceiver so then our understanding must be wrong
God is not a deceiver. That dishonor belongs to Satan and his followers. If we are to believe the word of God over man, then the deceivers are the Evilution so-called scientists, because God's word clearly says he made all physical life forms to reproduce after their own kind. Therefore, bacteria will only reproduce bacteria, they will not reproduce humans or any animals.

God's word says that humans were made in the beginning with other animals, not millions of years after the beginning. The deceivers say that God did not create anything, but it all came about by chance.

If you say the creation occurred over billions of years, then you have been deceived.
Revelation 12:9 NASB
And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
Just to confuse us? Or as a joke?
You confusion is because you believe in the followers of Satan the great liar and deceiver. You believe the lie that there is no God and He did not create anything. You are like that numbnuts sonhouse. 😏

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Originally posted by whodey
Saying that we are not that bright is rather diplomatic. The Bible just flat out says we are sheep. I suppose it sounds better than calling us all lemmings.
I would rather be one of the sheep following Christ (the way, the truth, and the life) than a sheep deceived by Satan and his followers.

HalleluYaH !!!
Praise the LORD !!!
Holy! Holy! Holy!

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