@kellyjay saidSo, you are saying Christ was a reality when I had faith in him and that hasn't been changed by the fact I lost my faith? In other words, you now accept my faith was real for as long as it lasted?
Faith in anything does not create the reality it accepts except in our minds, but if
something is true or not doesn't change if we believe it or not.
@fmf saidThe reality of Christ is no matter what you do and say about Him if you believe in
So, you are saying Christ was a reality when I had faith in him and that hasn't been changed by the fact I lost my faith? In other words, you now accept my faith was real for as long as it lasted?
Him and He is real, that is accepting the truth; if you believed in Him and He is not
real, that would be a break from reality because He isn't real. So the truth about
Christ is not found in what we believe; it is in the reality of Christ.
Your stance you are telling me because you once believed in Christ that alone means
you were a Christian, and I'm telling you Christ alone can make you a Christian. I've
mentioned several times that the number of people who are making professions of
faith without Christ actually in their lives will hear the words, "depart from me I
never knew you," and so simply believing is not enough; Christ has to be in you,
without the Spirit of God, your whole profession is a godless one.
@kellyjay saidThere's no evidence here that you have comprehended the content of my last 2-3 posts.
The reality of Christ is no matter what you do and say about Him if you believe in
Him and He is real, that is accepting the truth; if you believed in Him and He is not
real, that would be a break from reality because He isn't real. So the truth about
Christ is not found in what we believe; it is in the reality of Christ.
Your stance you are telling me because you once ...[text shortened]... enough; Christ has to be in you,
without the Spirit of God, your whole profession is a godless one.
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@fmf saidIt is all definitions nothing more or less! You say you once believed therefore you were a Christian because simply believing is all it takes according to you and apparently dive. If we were simply taking that as all it takes for truth and reality I would have to agree.
There's no evidence here that you have comprehended the content of my last 2-3 posts.
I do not because reality gives us the truth of definitions not the other way around, I don’t get to say I am a 21 year old of some minority so I can get a grant. If we were disputing if something was deadly poisonous or not those that drank it would reap reality no matter what they believed!
Christianity requires Christ not something or someone like Christ in their lives, that was all you ever had by your admission!
@kellyjay saidYour belief that "Christ alone can make you a Christian" is what makes you a Christian. It's what made me a Christian in the past.
Your stance you are telling me because you once believed in Christ that alone means
you were a Christian, and I'm telling you Christ alone can make you a Christian.
@kellyjay saidI fully acknowledge that you see yourself as one of the people who have "Christ in their lives". I fully acknowledge your Christian beliefs. I fully acknowledge that you think "Christ is real" and "in" you. I acknowledge that this is your faith.
Christianity requires Christ not something or someone like Christ in their lives, that was all you ever had by your admission!