I think christian organization should be an oxymoron... christ didn't make denominations. He said to love God and your neighbor and pray.
Church is a place of sanctuary not some kind of organization so if anybody calls themselves something and says they are an organization of christ you can see that their fruit is bad and that they are false teachers.
Originally posted by tomtom232There is some truth to your statement.
I think christian organization should be an oxymoron... christ didn't make denominations. He said to love God and your neighbor and pray.
Church is a place of sanctuary not some kind of organization so if anybody calls themselves something and says they are an organization of christ you can see that their fruit is bad and that they are false teachers.
You might be surprised to know that the following is also true of the JW Org. Basically they claim only JW will survive Armageddon and be in the Gods Kingdom.
"Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." Watchtower 1989 Sep 1 p.19
"Similarly, Jehovah is using only one organization today to accomplish his will. To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it." Watchtower 1983 Feb 15 p.12
"Is it presumptuous of Jehovah's Witnesses to point out that they alone have God's backing? Actually, no more so than when the Israelites in Egypt claimed to have God's backing in spite of the Egyptians' belief, or when the first-century Christians claimed to have God's backing to the exclusion of Jewish religionists." Watchtower 2001 Jun 1 p.16
"During the final period of the ancient world that perished in the Flood, Noah was a faithful preacher of righteousness. (2 Peter 2:5) In these last days of the present system of things, Jehovahs people are making known Gods righteous standards and are declaring good news about the possibility of surviving into the new world. (2 Peter 3:9-13) Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovahs universal organization." Watchtower 2006 May 15 p.22 "Are You Prepared for Survival?"
"There are billions of people who do not know Jehovah. Many of them in ignorance practice things that God's Word shows to be wicked. If they persist in this course, they will be among those who perish during the great tribulation." Watchtower 1993 Oct 1 p.19
Originally posted by galveston75It is clear that salvation is a gift from God to all, Jew or Gentile, that will
The confusion in salvation is not understanding who this applies to. Not all humans are offerd this salvation. It's only the ones who will be going to heaven to serve as Kings and Judges with Jesus. No humans on earth will ever be given immortality as none before us were ever offered that blessing that have the hope of living on this earth.
believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and will call on His name to be baptised
by the Holy Spirit.
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Originally posted by RJHindsThere are a dozen verses like that:
It is clear that salvation is a gift from God to all, Jew or Gentile, that will
believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and will call on His name to be baptised
by the Holy Spirit.
Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
Rom_5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
Rom_5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Rom 14:9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
Originally posted by galveston75Don't believe that at all
The confusion in salvation is not understanding who this applies to. Not all humans are offerd this salvation. It's only the ones who will be going to heaven to serve as Kings and Judges with Jesus. No humans on earth will ever be given immortality as none before us were ever offered that blessing that have the hope of living on this earth.
Manny
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Originally posted by menace71You noobs dont know anything, the purpose of going from home to home is to try to
What is the purpose of going door to door ? To pass out the "awake magazines" ?
Manny
find people who are interested in having a Bible study, of learning what Gods Kingdom
is (something that none of you could answer) and of learning to apply biblical
principles in their lives. I practically never offer any magazines, not unless i deem you
worthy. If people show interest then i talk, if they dont, then i leave. It is simply one
aspect of our awesome public education work. We do not need to justify it to anyone,
we have brought Arabs and Israelis together, former members of the IRA and
unionists, heck, during the Balkans conflict we had a convention where Serb and Croat
sat down together as brothers and sisters, united in worship. You people cant touch
this. Da da da dada, cant touch this!
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI practically never offer any magazines, not unless i deem you worthy.
You noobs dont know anything, the purpose of going from home to home is to try to
find people who are interested in having a Bible study, of learning what Gods Kingdom
is (something that none of you could answer) and of learning to apply biblical
principles in their lives. I practically never offer any magazines, not unless i deem you
worthy. ...[text shortened]... s and sisters, united in worship. You people cant touch
this. Da da da dada, cant touch this!
You may not, but others certainly do. I live 10-15 mins walk from a Kingdom Hall, in the 18 months i've lived here i've had one piece of literature delivered. Even then my door was open and the guy just walked up put it into the porch and disappeared like 'Willow the Wisp'.