Originally posted by apathistDon't put your faith in gods. Put your faith in Christ Jesus, the good shepherd.
I'm a hard-core hiker. When the path is unclear, people have walked off cliffs.
How can we know that the gods aren't hungry and want to eat souls? Walk off the cliff and find out?
Jesus said, “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep."
(John 10:11 NKJV)
Originally posted by FMFHe actively persecuted Christians at one point and I imagine it made some of them despise him. Upon becoming a Christian, he seems to have changed in some ways, and the Jews became the ones to despise him and the Romans put him in prison.
Did the apostle Paul actively try to make people despise him?
Originally posted by RJHindsAs an apostle, did Paul actively try to make people despise him?
He actively persecuted Christians at one point and I imagine it made some of them despise him. Upon becoming a Christian, he seems to have changed in some ways, and the Jews became the ones to despise him and the Romans put him in prison.
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Originally posted by RJHindsDid Jesus actively try to make people despise him?
But most of all I seek the approval from Christ Jesus, because I already know he loves me.
Originally posted by RJHinds
I am a different kind of Christian and some do not understand my methods because it is not their way.
When you say you are "a different kind of Christian", are you acknowledging that your attempts to actively get people to hate you are "different" from the teaching of Christ and Paul and are thus "not their way"?
Originally posted by FMFI can't say what was their active intent.
Did Jesus actively try to make people despise him?
Originally posted by RJHinds
[b]I am a different kind of Christian and some do not understand my methods because it is not their way.
When you say you are "a different kind of Christian", are you acknowledging that your attempts to actively get people to hate you are "different" from the teaching of Christ and Paul and are thus "not their way"?[/b]
Originally posted by FMFNo, I did not say that at all. Nor did I say I am actively trying to make people despise me, only those people that refuse to believe and put their faith and trust in Christ. I wish to put them to the test so that they will make a decision. If they remain an unbeliever, I wish that they will despise me in the place of Christ.
So you think Christ and Paul might have been trying to actively make people despise them?
Is this a widely held tenet of Christian theology?
Originally posted by RJHindsHow is actively trying to make unbelievers despise you going to make them "make a decision" to become believers?
No, I did not say that at all. Nor did I say I am actively trying to make people despise me, only those people that refuse to believe and put their faith and trust in Christ. I wish to put them to the test so that they will make a decision. If they remain an unbeliever, I wish that they will despise me in the place of Christ.
Do you believe you are following Christian doctrine with all this stuff?
Originally posted by FMFR.J.H. can speak for hmself. F.M.F. can do the same. One man is not here to dish the Apostle Paul, much less the Person
This appears to be the doctrine that RJHinds is propagating here.
and Work of Jesus Christ. For anybody to even suggest such motives (or to condone then) is despicable and infantile!
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyRJHinds said he hopes to get approval and love from all believers for speaking out for the truth. Are you saying that his 'I enjoy trying to offend [unbelievers] so they despise me... Let them hate me, like Jesus was hated' approach is not going to earn your love and approval as a fellow Christian?
R.J.H. can speak for hmself. F.M.F. can do the same. One man is not here to dish the Apostle Paul, much less the Person
and Work of Jesus Christ. For anybody to even suggest such motives (or to condone then) is despicable and infantile!
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Originally posted by FMFSir F, your feigned innocence adds nothing. Your pool hall bank shot off Hinds' hind quarter is laughable. Idle and empty words all, for which one day you shall be held accountable. When that day comes (as most assuredly it will) please place a thick shingle in your dark brown colored pants.
RJHinds said he hopes to get approval and love from all believers for speaking out for the truth. Are you saying that his 'I enjoy trying to offend [unbelievers] so they despise me... Let them hate me, like Jesus was hated' approach is not going to earn your love and approval as a fellow Christian?
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