10 Sep 10
Originally posted by Conrau Kand i think its laughable that anyone would pay twenty pounds to see an old geezer in fancy dress for no practical reason, when the i max and the science centre are just up the road.
[b]as yet there seems no other practical reason as to why anyone should attend other than to show 'solidarity', 'to socialise', 'to see or hear the Pope', 'to exercise trust in him' etc etc all i must say are emotionally based and not really reasons at all.
Those seem very persuasive reasons.
I think my first evaluation is correct in that its ...[text shortened]... y quite laughable that you think the only valid reason to see the Pope is personal gain.
10 Sep 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI don't know what to say to this.....er....um.....right. 😉
what do you mean cheesy, i love the paradise tract, its got a panda on the front of it and pretty ladies modestly dressed serving drinks in an earthly paradise, how cool is that!
10 Sep 10
Originally posted by Conrau Kdoes anyone remember laughter?
lol, ill tell you a story, i was once witnessing near Gt Western road, in Glasgow, a car full of students drove past and started ripping me for being a witness, they were all laughing and giggling, making fun of me, unfortunately for them, the traffic lights turned red and they had to stop, i walked over and they started to roll up the windows, but before they ...[text shortened]... ? It just seems like very immature behaviour and totally inexcusable if they were only students.[/b]
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou're not Catholic and I don't expect you to understand. As a JW, you're not exactly an objective judge.
and i think its laughable that anyone would pay twenty pounds to see an old geezer in fancy dress for no practical reason, when the i max and the science centre are just up the road.
Anyway, I really don't know why anyone would want to see your queen or listen to your prime minister. There's no practical value in that.
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Originally posted by Conrau Kyou are absolutely correct, that is why i asked you in the first place, because i could not fathom it, i will try harder to put myself in the shoes of a catholic. Also on the second point you are absolutely correct also, why would anyone want to see the queen? it has always bemused me why hordes of people should line the street waving flags at some old lady, my goodness have they nothing else to do than admire personalities? i seriously mean it, utterly bemused as to what they are feeling. Perhaps its some egalitarian sensibility on my part that prevents me from feeling their joy, i dunno, but i truly cringe at the very idea.
You're not Catholic and I don't expect you to understand. As a JW, you're not exactly an objective judge.
Anyway, I really don't know why anyone would want to see your queen or listen to your prime minister. There's no practical value in that.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieAs you say, everyone in the tract is smiling. So let me ask you something, have you ever walked into a room where everyone else is smiling? What is your first reaction?
im just asking, maybe you could teach me something.
Isn't your first reaction, "What is wrong with you people?" As for myself, my first reaction is to look down to see if my barn door is open, if you know what I mean. 😛
Naturally, if they are not smiling the question begs, is this a place I really want to go? What can I say, you just can't win.
I know, what about one of those Mona Lisa smiles?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf you ask me, this is a deal. In fact, St. Peter charged 40 pounds and St. Paul had the audacity to charge 50 pounds. Martin Luther was a kill joy, however, when he found out that the Catholic church was having people purchase their salvation.
you can get to see him for twenty pounds, per person, which apparently includes some kind of package, maybe an indulgence here an indulgence there, who can tell. I plan to sneak in and witness to him, hoping to bring him to an accurate knowledge of truth, wish me luck 🙂
10 Sep 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobiemany denominations are world wide as well, and our denomination has seen explosive growth in underdeveloped countries while declining in europe and north america....its not uncommon
interesting is not the word, phenomenal is more like it, perhaps this demographic presentation may put your mind at ease,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:JWStats.png
please note we are a world wide organisation, therefore what you observe locally has no real bearing on anything, furthermore, its probable that shall attendan entirely differen ...[text shortened]... imply stop being publishers of the good news because a location changes or becomes unavailable.
10 Sep 10
Originally posted by dueceryes but were talking only about active publishers of the good news, not those who are simply content to put bums on pews.
many denominations are world wide as well, and our denomination has seen explosive growth in underdeveloped countries while declining in europe and north america....its not uncommon
10 Sep 10
Originally posted by whodeyif you were in paradise, free from all the ills which mar the system, destined to live forever under perfect circumstances, you wouldn't be smiling? i guess cynicism recognises no boundaries.
As you say, everyone in the tract is smiling. So let me ask you something, have you ever walked into a room where everyone else is smiling? What is your first reaction?
Isn't your first reaction, "What is wrong with you people?" As for myself, my first reaction is to look down to see if my barn door is open, if you know what I mean. 😛
Naturally, if ...[text shortened]... What can I say, you just can't win.
I know, what about one of those Mona Lisa smiles?
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Originally posted by Rajk999How swift are we talking? If he has not brought destruction upon himself in say the next 1 year, can we conclude that you are wrong and he is not a false prophet? What about 10 years?
Going to spread your false prophesies and false teachings Robbie? Swift destruction comes to those like the JWs ..
II Pet 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
If we cannot make conclusions in the negative (ie when he doesn't match the verse), then does the verse have any real use or meaning?
Can we say that anybody in the past who claimed to be a prophet, but did not suffer any visible swift destruction (lets say they lived relatively comfortably for at least 20 years after making the claim), is therefore a true prophet?
10 Sep 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobiei might also add there are roughly about 40,000 per annum who fail to live up to the high moral standards and who sadly have to be removed for unrepentant behaviour.
yes but were talking only about active publishers of the good news, not those who are simply content to put bums on pews.