Originally posted by robbie carrobieTHE JW ORGANISATION CLAIMS TO BE GODS PROPHET.
we have never claimed to be inspired prophets, the watchtower magazine has never claimed to be inspired, we have originated no prophecies. let me repeat this last statement for the very very very very last time, so as you get its import, we have merely sought to understand prophecies ALREADY WRITTEN, IN THE BIBLE.
But you cant be Gods Prophet becuase you are a fraud.
All your prophesies are false.
You get it .. fool ?
Originally posted by galveston75lol, he seems to be unable to differentiate between acting in a prophet like manner and being inspired to utter actual prophecies. He cannot handle the fact that, we have never claimed to be inspired prophets, the watchtower magazine has never claimed inspiration, for it then completely negates his whole argument and it becomes a lie, he thus is forced, through lack of reason to utter, well, emotional insults like, you fool etc etc perhaps hes never read Christ's words
Ouch...Harsh words there. Be careful.
(Matthew 5:22) . . .However, I say to you that everyone who continues wrathful with his brother will be accountable to the court of justice; but whoever addresses his brother with an unspeakable word of contempt will be accountable to the Supreme Court; whereas whoever says, ‘You despicable fool!’ will be liable to the fiery Gehenna.
but then again, to actually apply the words of Christ, well, that would take a Christian 🙂
Originally posted by robbie carrobiePerhaps Catholics do not attend this for any personal benefit. Are you unable to understand that some people in this world do not act for private gains? Perhaps some Catholics go as a sign of solidarity, as a festive time to enjoy with other Catholics or as an act of witness to their faith. Perhaps they want to hear the Pope or perhaps they turn out as a sign of trust for him. I really cannot speculate on the motivations of thousands of Catholics. You might as well ask why anyone does anything.
i think that's a bit strong, after all i was out today, sacrificing my time, my energies, in the rain, at my own personal cost trying to help others to understand the Bible. Yes indeed, am i not entitled to ask of what practical benefit is his visit, otherwise i am forced to conclude that it is a purely futile act and i would be better off going som ...[text shortened]... would learn something. Perhaps you can now answer the question which you have sought to evade?
Originally posted by Conrau Kas yet there seems no other practical reason as to why anyone should attend other than to show 'solidarity', 'to socialise', 'to see or hear the Pope', 'to exercise trust in him' etc etc all i must say are emotionally based and not really reasons at all. I think my first evaluation is correct in that its nothing more than the cult of personality and everyone would be as equally benefited if they went to see AC/DC.
Perhaps Catholics do not attend this for any personal benefit. Are you unable to understand that some people in this world do not act for private gains? Perhaps some Catholics go as a sign of solidarity, as a festive time to enjoy with other Catholics or as an act of witness to their faith. Perhaps they want to hear the Pope or perhaps they turn out as a si ...[text shortened]... te on the motivations of thousands of Catholics. You might as well ask why anyone does anything.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieGods Prophet !! What a fraud ...
lol, he seems to be unable to differentiate between acting in a prophet like manner and being inspired to utter actual prophecies. He cannot handle the fact that, we have never claimed to be inspired prophets, the watchtower magazine has never claimed inspiration, for it then completely negates his whole argument and it becomes a lie, he thus is for ...[text shortened]...
but then again, to actually apply the words of Christ, well, that would take a Christian 🙂
II Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
(Matthew 7:15-20) . . .“Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit; a good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, neither can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Every tree not producing fine fruit gets cut down and thrown into the fire. Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men.
what is the fruitage of Christendoms churches? war and violence on an unprecedented scale, paedophilia on an unprecedented scale, greed and corruption on an unprecedented scale, the blessing of homosexual acts, meddling in politics, adoption of anti scriptural doctrines and beliefs etc etc etc. what did Christ state, a good tree cannot produce worthless fruit, leaving you and Christendom where? i think the prophecy speaks for itself.
let me add your personal one,
whoever says, ‘You despicable fool!’ will be liable to the fiery Gehenna
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIts hilarous that you keep quoting a verse in which Christ condems false prophets and the JW Organisation is by far the biggest false prophets the world has ever seen. You are condemning youself. You are such a dunce.
(Matthew 7:15-20) . . .“Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit; a ...[text shortened]... worthless fruit, leaving you and Christendom where? i think the prophecy speaks for itself.[/b]
Originally posted by Rajk999(Matthew 5:22) . . .However, I say to you that everyone who continues wrathful with his brother will be accountable to the court of justice; but whoever addresses his brother with an unspeakable word of contempt will be accountable to the Supreme Court; whereas whoever says, ‘You despicable fool!’ will be liable to the fiery Gehenna.
Its hilarous that you keep quoting a verse in which Christ condems false prophets and the JW Organisation is by far the biggest false prophets the world has ever seen. You are condemning youself. You are such a dunce.
by their actions you will know those men. I think your actions speak for themselves.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieFrom pictures and news segments I've seen all my life, I see many, many crying, wanting to kiss him or anything he's wearing or wanting to be blessed by him or fainting in the process or going to unbelievable expense and distances to be there.
as yet there seems no other practical reason as to why anyone should attend other than to show 'solidarity', 'to socialise', 'to see or hear the Pope', 'to exercise trust in him' etc etc all i must say are emotionally based and not really reasons at all. I think my first evaluation is correct in that its nothing more than the cult of personality and everyone would be as equally benefited if they went to see AC/DC.
Seems like a little more then just socializing with fellow Catholics.
To me it seems like the way most act when idols such as Elvis, Micheal Jackson or Taylor Swift are in the house.
That seems a far cry from the way Jesus accepted his followers as I doubt he would have put up with that sillyness.
Originally posted by galveston75yes its nothing more than the cult of personality i think. He's like a religious celebrity. Lets hope he can sing or dance, or play the banjo 🙂
From pictures and news segments I've seen all my life, I see many, many crying, wanting to kiss him or anything he's wearing or wanting to be blessed by him or fainting in the process or going to unbelievable expense and distances to be there.
Seems like a little more then just socializing with fellow Catholics.
To me it seems like the way most act w ...[text shortened]... from the way Jesus accepted his followers as I doubt he would have put up with that sillyness.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou arn't going to hand him one of those cheesy JW tracks are you? 😕
you can get to see him for twenty pounds, per person, which apparently includes some kind of package, maybe an indulgence here an indulgence there, who can tell. I plan to sneak in and witness to him, hoping to bring him to an accurate knowledge of truth, wish me luck 🙂
In case he asks, I charge 30 pounds for anyone who desires an audiance with "the Whodey"
Edit: Cash only please, and this includes the Pope. ðŸ˜
Originally posted by whodeylol, ill tell you a story, i was once witnessing near Gt Western road, in Glasgow, a car full of students drove past and started ripping me for being a witness, they were all laughing and giggling, making fun of me, unfortunately for them, the traffic lights turned red and they had to stop, i walked over and they started to roll up the windows, but before they could get it shut i managed to slip in a tract, they were all bouncing about in the car as if it were a hot potato, haha the joke was on them.
You arn't going to hand him one of those cheesy JW tracks are you? 😕
what do you mean cheesy, i love the paradise tract, its got a panda on the front of it and pretty ladies modestly dressed serving drinks in an earthly paradise, how cool is that!
An audience with whodey, what benefit is that? shall we get to kiss your ruby encrusted ring? talk of the perils of cap and trade? kiss an effigy of Sarah Palin?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieas yet there seems no other practical reason as to why anyone should attend other than to show 'solidarity', 'to socialise', 'to see or hear the Pope', 'to exercise trust in him' etc etc all i must say are emotionally based and not really reasons at all.
as yet there seems no other practical reason as to why anyone should attend other than to show 'solidarity', 'to socialise', 'to see or hear the Pope', 'to exercise trust in him' etc etc all i must say are emotionally based and not really reasons at all. I think my first evaluation is correct in that its nothing more than the cult of personality and everyone would be as equally benefited if they went to see AC/DC.
Those seem very persuasive reasons.
I think my first evaluation is correct in that its nothing more than the cult of personality and everyone would be as equally benefited if they went to see AC/DC.
Catholics obviously will generally have a great reverence for the papacy and want to see him. Some indeed may be motivated by the cult of personality. Not all however. The Pope will, for example, meet with abuse victims and heads of other churches. Others simply want to pray with the Pope. This has nothing to do with celebrity.
Again, it is really quite laughable that you think the only valid reason to see the Pope is personal gain.
Originally posted by robbie carrobielol, ill tell you a story, i was once witnessing near Gt Western road, in Glasgow, a car full of students drove past and started ripping me for being a witness, they were all laughing and giggling, making fun of me, unfortunately for them, the traffic lights turned red and they had to stop, i walked over and they started to roll up the windows, but before they could get it shut i managed to slip in a tract, they were all bouncing about in the car as if it were a hot potato, haha the joke was on them.
lol, ill tell you a story, i was once witnessing near Gt Western road, in Glasgow, a car full of students drove past and started ripping me for being a witness, they were all laughing and giggling, making fun of me, unfortunately for them, the traffic lights turned red and they had to stop, i walked over and they started to roll up the windows, but b ...[text shortened]... s your ruby encrusted ring? talk of the perils of cap and trade? kiss an effigy of Sarah Palin?
Do you think that throwing a tract at them will have brought about any conversion? It just seems like very immature behaviour and totally inexcusable if they were only students.