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21 Jan 15
Originally posted by wolfgang59No. The sin of Onan was selfishness, not pulling out (let alone pulling himself!). His societal duty was to provide his brother's widow with a son and heir, and he refused to do that so his own children would inherit everything.
Isnt that the same as onanism and thus also taboo?
21 Jan 15
Originally posted by whodeyOdd. God says to be fruitful and multiply, but the pope says not!
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/01/19/pope-birth-control-comments/22017365/
After getting lectured by the Pope to be PC around Muslims, we now are told not to have too many children.
When will the Catholic church start passing out rubbers in church and endorsing abortion?
If I did not know better, I would swear he is Obama's twin. Knowing who Obama's mother was, I may be right.
Who are we to believe?
21 Jan 15
Originally posted by Great King RatI agree, but that's not the point.
Your own wish to have children, your own financial outlook, your own health.
Basically, your own common sense...?
The point is that the pope isn't God. The pope, in spite of what he may think, doesn't have the authority to override God's instructions.
Besides, if we, the human race, didn't eff the world up so bad there would be ample resources to provide for all. There's not too many people, just too many idiots. Like the kind that breed indiscriminately at random and abandon their own children.
21 Jan 15
Originally posted by josephwIn what way do you see the Pope's advice as overriding what you see as being God's instructions? When he suggests that people limit the number of children they have and also says that "no outside institution should impose its views on regulating family size" including his own church, do you really think that this is the same as saying 'don't be fruitful and multiply'?
The point is that the pope isn't God. The pope, in spite of what he may think, doesn't have the authority to override God's instructions.
21 Jan 15
Originally posted by josephwSo you and the Pope agree about it not being a good idea for people to "breed indiscriminately", do you think?
Besides, if we, the human race, didn't eff the world up so bad there would be ample resources to provide for all. There's not too many people, just too many idiots. Like the kind that breed indiscriminately at random and abandon their own children.
21 Jan 15
Originally posted by Great King RatDo you mean how do I know it was God that said those things and not just some men perpetrating an elaborate hoax on the entire human race that has lasted over 3500 years and has effected the lives of countless millions, and all simply because man is so fearful of natural phenomenon that he invented a God to explain what man didn't understand about his environment, and to create a religion for the purpose of controlling the ignorant and superstitious masses?
How do you know God said these things you claim?
21 Jan 15
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Originally posted by josephwI don't think the term "hoax" is the right word to describe sociological and philosophical phenomena like Christianity, Islam and Judaism. I don't think their adherents and proponents are engaged in something intended to deceive or that amounts to deliberate trickery intended to gain an advantage.
Do you mean how do I know it was God that said those things and not just some men perpetrating an elaborate hoax on the entire human race that has lasted over 3500 years and has effected the lives of countless millions, and all simply because man is so fearful of natural phenomenon that he invented a God to explain what man didn't understand about his enviro ...[text shortened]... , and to create a religion for the purpose of controlling the ignorant and superstitious masses?
21 Jan 15
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Originally posted by josephwDoes the number 8 BILLION mean anything to you? When is enough enough? What, 50 billion? Is THAT too many? A trillion? You tell me what you think is too many people on this planet.
Odd. God says to be fruitful and multiply, but the pope says not!
Who are we to believe?
Personally, I think ONE billion is pushing it.
21 Jan 15
Originally posted by sonhousejosephw believes there were 8,000,000,000 people on earth at the time of "The Flood".
Does the number 8 BILLION mean anything to you? When is enough enough? What, 50 billion? Is THAT too many? A trillion? You tell me what you think is too many people on this planet.
Personally, I think ONE billion is pushing it.