Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou were never a teenager????????????
Now while for you it may not be a problem, for other people that is not the case, for they are substituting the fantasy for reality and never know of the joy that comes from making love with a real woman and end up so unhappy that they take on other ailments like depression and suicidal tendencies. Imagine always looking and yet never being able to ...[text shortened]... uch or feel or enjoy the object of your desire, that has to be frustrating and unhealthy surely?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieFinally, here is RC's actual point:
How many of these models or porn queens do you ever get to kiss or make love to? Id hazard a guess and say nada, zeeeeeero, you are engaging in nothing more than a fantasy.
Don't just look at pornography, but seek out that model or porn queen and take her to bed.
In other words, this thread is nothing more than an invitation to promiscuity and recreational sex.
Shame on you.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieHow many of these models or porn queens do you ever get to kiss or make love to? Id hazard a guess and say nada, zeeeeeero, you are engaging in nothing more than a fantasy.
How many of these models or porn queens do you ever get to kiss or make love to? Id hazard a guess and say nada, zeeeeeero, you are engaging in nothing more than a fantasy. Now while for you it may not be a problem, for other people that is not the case, for they are substituting the fantasy for reality and never know of the joy that comes from mak ...[text shortened]... uch or feel or enjoy the object of your desire, that has to be frustrating and unhealthy surely?
Yes, I'm well aware of that. What's your point?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYour analogy with a sweet shop window is seriously flawed.
this is about the more sinister side of pornography wolfie, not about teenage boys gob smacked over some magazine that they found stashed in a bush!
Licking a window is not even remotely close to the experience of eating the actual sweets.
A primary function of sex is to engage in sexual activity to reach orgasm. The use of pornography is essentially the same in these terms. Of course, actual sex is often considered superior in this sense (though by no means always) and there are other factors at play such as emotional intimacy etc which would lead most people to conclude that sex is preferable.
So a better analogy would the difference between eating a bar of Dairy Milk versus eating the finest output of a Swiss Chocolatier. Only someone with a very limited view of life would try and argue that eating Dairy Milk is somehow 'artificial' and 'wrong' for this reason.
Originally posted by CalJustStrawman-o-meter just blew up! - I have not advocated seeking out porn queens nor of being promiscuous,
Finally, here is RC's actual point:
Don't just look at pornography, but seek out that model or porn queen and take her to bed.
In other words, this thread is nothing more than an invitation to promiscuity and recreational sex.
Shame on you.
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As it is you seem to be more interested in painting villianous mustaches onto people you don't agree with than you are in giving any kind of rational response - lemon lime to FMF
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Originally posted by Rank outsiderIts not seriously flawed, its a masterpiece of teaching!
Your analogy with a sweet shop window is seriously flawed.
Licking a window is not even remotely close to the experience of eating the actual sweets.
A primary function of sex is to engage in sexual activity to reach orgasm. The use of pornography is essentially the same in these terms. Of course, actual sex is often considered superior in this ...[text shortened]... would try and argue that eating Dairy Milk is somehow 'artificial' and 'wrong' for this reason.
EPIC FAIL man, seriously because the efficacy of my brilliant and highly original not to mention visually emotive analogy is not dependent upon the similarity of licking a window to tasting the sweets on display but on the disparity of the experience that exists between the two. That the outcome should be similar, that of tasting something is not a sound nor logical way to test the veracity of the experience, is it.
Indulging in pornography is essentially a selfish experience done for self gratification, whereas engaging in sexual intercourse with someone we love is exactly the opposite, its a loving and giving experience. That the outcome for both may be orgasmic is neither here nor there because the veracity of the experience cannot be solely determined by the end result and context is everything.
My objection is based on the fact that there are those caught up in a vicious cycle whereby they substitute something that is empty and devoid, a mere phantom of reality, for a loving, meaningful and essentially fulfilling relationship, depriving them of real happiness. I don't think any sane or rational individual would argue against this.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt is possible that English is not your first language, because clearly words mean different things to the two of us.
Strawman-o-meter just blew up! - I have not advocated seeking out porn queens nor of being promiscuous,
As it is you seem to be more interested in painting villianous mustaches onto people you don't agree with than you are in giving any kind of rational response - lemon lime to FMF
In your sentence, which I quoted verbatim, you clearly intimate that actual sex with a porn queen is preferable than just looking at her. Or else why the sarcastic rhetorical question?
It IS possible, I suppose, that you don't understand the concept of sarcasm, irony, or rhetorical questions. But in that case you should not be on this forum.
You even misunderstand the concept of a strawman argument!
I will give you the benefit off the doubt: Exactly what DID you mean by that opening statement which I quoted, which Proper Knob also asked to be clarified? Can you do that please, without red herrings and evasions?
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Originally posted by Proper Knobmy point is that while it might be fine for you, for other people they have no partner and substitute pornography to their detriment.
[b]How many of these models or porn queens do you ever get to kiss or make love to? Id hazard a guess and say nada, zeeeeeero, you are engaging in nothing more than a fantasy.
Yes, I'm well aware of that. What's your point?[/b]
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Originally posted by CalJustI speak English, Hindi/Urdu fluently, Punjabi, lowland Scots at home and have a smattering of Gaelic and French
It is possible that English is not your first language, because clearly words mean different things to the two of us.
In your sentence, which I quoted verbatim, you clearly intimate that actual sex with a porn queen is preferable than just looking at her. Or else why the sarcastic rhetorical question?
It IS possible, I suppose, that you don't understa ...[text shortened]... u the benefit off the doubt: Exactly what DID you mean by that opening statement which I quoted?
I have not misunderstood anything, you have used a false argument to present a perspective that I have not advocated, that is a strawman argument. If you do not understand why it is a strawman argument, ask someone for help.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobiehere is your falsehood CalWuss
I speak English, Hindi/Urdu fluently, Punjabi, lowland Scots at home and have a smattering of Gaelic and French
I have not misunderstood anything, you have used a false argument to present a perspective that I have not advocated, that is a strawman argument. If you do not understand why it is a strawman argument, ask someone for help.
Don't just look at pornography, but seek out that model or porn queen and take her to bed - CallWuss
can you point out where i have advocated doing this? No, because I have not, you simply made it up.
and here is the argument that you proffered on the basis of the false perspective that you fabricated (we wont call it a lie, but well, it amounts to the same thing) above.
In other words, this thread is nothing more than an invitation to promiscuity and recreational sex.
All in all, its completely false. Thankyou Jesus.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDid the folks at that blog get back to you?
and yet i produced figures to the contrary.
And where did you produce figures that show that there are NOT millions of people who watch pornography for whom it does no harm?
On which page did you post figures that you reckon contradicts Proper Knob's statement?