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Originally posted by FetchmyjunkRehab the prostitute and Cyrus King of Persin.
Without faith it is impossible to please God. So all any 'works' that are done without faith do not please God.
Do some reading.
Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Without faith it is impossible to please God. So all any 'works' that are done without faith do not please God.
"What then shall we say? Is the law sin? Absolutely not! But I did not know sin except through the law; for neither did I know coveting, except the law had said, 'You shall not covet' " (Rom. 7:7)
"But sin, seizing the opportunity through the commandment, worked out in me coveting of every kind; for without the law sin is dead." (v.8)
"And I was alive without the law once, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died." (v.9)
"And the commandment, which was unto life, this very commandment was found to me to be unto death." (v.10)
"For sin, seizing the opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me." (v.11)
" Did that which is good become death to me? Absolutely not! But sin did, that it might be shown to be sin by working out death through that which is good through the commandment ... " (Rom. 7:13)
" There is now then no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has freed me in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and of death.
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending His own Son in the likeness of the flesh of sin and concerning sin, condemned sin in the flesh.
That the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, WHO DO NOT WALK ACCORDING TO THE FLESH BUT ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT. ...
For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the spirit is life and peace." (See Rom. 8:1-4,6)
Originally posted by sonship[b]Without faith it is impossible to please God. So all any 'works' that are done without faith do not please God.
"For by the offense of the one death reigned through the one, much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ." (Rom. 5:17)
" Therefore girding up the loins of your mind and being sober, set your hope perfectly on the grace being brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ." (1 Pet. 1:13)
" The GRACE of the Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit, brothers. Amen." (Gal. 6:18)
" The GRACE of the Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit." (Phil. 4:23)
" The GRACE of the Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit" ( Philemon 25)
" The Lord be with your spirit. Grace be with you." ( 2 Timothy 4:22)
Originally posted by robbie carrobie'For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom He wishes.' John 5:21
Sonships esoteric ramblings and insistence on 'the spirit', to the detriment of almost everything else is nothing more than a form of neoplatonism inherited from Calvin which sees all matter as essentially evil. This is why he constantly focuses on 'The Spirit', not ever taking the time to understand any of the nuances of spirit as it is utilised in ...[text shortened]... this matter numerous times but he remains arrogant and wilfully ignorant. His error is is own.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeI suspect that the source is the father although it can 'happen' through the son.
'For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom He wishes.' John 5:21
Does the 'breath of life' also come from Jesus?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI still believe that there is hope for you. if God would have mercy to open your eyes.
Sonships esoteric ramblings ...
and insistence on 'the spirit', to the detriment of almost everything else
is nothing more than a form of neoplatonism inherited from Calvin
which sees all matter as essentially evil.
"I exhort you therefore, brothers, through the compassions of God to present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, well pleasing to God, which is your reasonable service." (Romans 12:1)
" And if the Spirit of the One who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from among the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who indwells you." (Rom 8:11)
" Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from the body of this death?" (7:24)
" Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from the body of this death?
Thanks be to God, through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh, the law of sin.
There is now then no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus. " (7:24-8:1)
" ... present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, well pleasing to God ..." (12:1)
This is why he constantly focuses on 'The Spirit',
" But I tell you the truth, It is expedient for you that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you." (John 16:7)
" And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Comforter, the He may be with you forever,
Even the Spirit of reality, whom the world cannot receive, because does not behold Him or know Him; but you know Him, because He abides with you and shall be in you.
I will not leave you as orphans, I am coming to you." (John 14:16-18)
"... but you know Him, because He abides with you and shall be in you."
" ... He abides with you and shall be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I AM COMING TO YOU."
Originally posted by robbie carrobieLongwinded is not the worst part of it.
I am gonna be honest, I didn't read any of that, too long winded.
not ever taking the time to understand any of the nuances of spirit as it is utilised in scripture with the exception of course to those verses which reaffirm his dogma.
" He who believes into Me, as the Scripture said, out of his innermost being shall flow rivers of living water.
But this He said concerning the Spirit, which those who believed into Him were about to receive; for the Spirit was not yet, because Jesus had not yet been glorified." (John 7:38,39)
"Was it not necessary for the Christ to suffer these things and enter into His glory? (Luke 24:26)
"But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those who believed into Him WERE ABOUT TO RECEIVE; ... for THE SPIRIT WAS NOT YET, ... because Jesus had NOT YET BEEN GLORIFIED."
"the last Adam became a life giving Spirit" (1 Cor. 15:45)
" And if the Spirit of the One who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who indwells you. (Rom. 8:11)
Take for example 2 Timothy 3:16,17 All scripture is inspired (theopneustos, -God breathed) of God. Here we can see that the operation of Holy Spirit is to inspire the Bible writers.
" Then Jesus said to them again, Peace be to you; as the Father has sent Me, I also send you.
And when He had said this, He breathed into them and said to them, Receive the Holy Spirit." (John 20:21,22)
Also if we consider the creation of Adam, 'Then God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed [theopneustos -God breathed) into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. Gen 2:7 Again we can see the action of the Holy Spirit animating Adam to life.
" But there is a [human] spirit in man, And the breath of the Almighty gives them understanding." (Job 32:8)
" The [human] spirit of man is the lamp of Jehovah, Searching all the innermost parts of the inner being." (Proverbs 20:27)
" But if Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, the [human] spirit is [divine ZOE] life because of righteousness." (Rom. 10)
Sonhsips adherence to his pagan doctrines has blinded him to the operation of Gods Holy spirit and thus is sole conception is tat of a personage. I have pointed out his error in this matter numerous times but he remains arrogant and wilfully ignorant. His error is is own.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThen you are satisfied with remaining in ignorance.
I am gonna be honest, I didn't read any of that, too long winded.
Originally posted by sonshipLet your next post quote where "Holy Spirit" is breathed into man in Genesis - Sonshipnot ever taking the time to understand any of the nuances of spirit as it is utilised in scripture with the exception of course to those verses which reaffirm his dogma.
I know about the breath of God being breathed into the created man in [b]Genesis. That was the creation of man's human spirit. But that was not God Himself coming to ...[text shortened]... e "pagan" teaching is what you are getting down at your kingdom hall of the Jehovah's Witnesses.[/b]