Predestination. True or false?

Predestination. True or false?

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Thankfully I believe in humanity and our advancement in science and intellectual growth.

I suspect, in 2235, belief in God or gods will be seen as a curious and rather quaint thing from the past. (A bit like paper money and velcro).
It is possible to believe in both God and humanity.

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@galveston75 said
Just curious with a question for the future. How will science stop hate?
Hopefully that will be taken care of by the intellectual growth. But who knows, maybe hate will always be around.

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@rajk999 said
It is possible to believe in both God and humanity.
I think the first holds back the second.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
I think the first holds back the second.
Yeah a fanatical belief in God which sees people as being hopelessly evil, does hinder the progress of humanity. There are many who do not share that view.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Hopefully that will be taken care of by the intellectual growth. But who knows, maybe hate will always be around.
Thanks. I'm assuming that you don't believe in Satan I'd guess. But as long as he is around, the world will at best continue on with the bad we see but he is getting desperate because of him knowing he only has a short time left before he is abyssed. He is refereed to as a lion in the Bible, so he is acting like one that is getting cornered.

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@galveston75 said
Thanks. I'm assuming that you don't believe in Satan I'd guess. But as long as he is around, the world will at best continue on with the bad we see but he is getting desperate because of him knowing he only has a short time left before he is abyssed. He is refereed to as a lion in the Bible, so he is acting like one that is getting cornered.
No, I don't personify evil. There are some negative traits that are integral (unfortunately) to the human condition, greed, hate etc. I hope we will evolve out of these, but that isn't a given.

The future is unwritten.

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@rajk999 said
Galveston believes only the 144,000 JW elders which Revelation speaks of(for him), are predestined and they go to heaven.
Precisely 144,000 precisely? That sounds very predestined don’t you think?

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@divegeester said
Precisely 144,000 precisely? That sounds very predestined don’t you think?
Yes, predestined Jews from the 12 tribes of Israel. Galveston believes it applies to JW elders and nobody else

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Predestination is the Calvinist version of Squid Game.

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@divegeester said
Precisely 144,000 precisely? That sounds very predestined don’t you think?
You Ok?

Edit: That’s a good point, but he doesn’t say who’s in that 144,000. If the number *and* individuals were determined beforehand, I think that’s be more along the lines of predestination.

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@pb1022 said
You Ok?
Yep. Brilliant.

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very false

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Did someone leave the cat-flap open?