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So the statistics that show the priests are less likely to molest young boys are irrelevant then
Originally posted by David CI'm can't be bothered to post the link with the statistics a third time.
Which statistics might those be, then?
Originally posted by mrstabbyOh, you mean this one?
I'm can't be bothered to post the link with the statistics a third time.
Two widely circulated estimates suggest that approximately 2% to 6% of Roman Catholic priests abuse children and youths. This compares with other common estimates: that perhaps 1% of all adults and 2% of all adult males are abusive pedophiles. However, priests have freer access to many children than does the average male.
Originally posted by David CChildren and youths, exactly. There is a difference between a paedophile and a hebephile as stated in the article. If you read the rest of the article it goes on to state that most of those abused were between 16 and 17 years of age, and the incidence of pedophiles among priests is 0.15%.
Oh, you mean this one?
http://www.religioustolerance.org/clergy_sex6.htm
[quote]Two widely circulated estimates suggest that approximately 2% to 6% of Roman Catholic priests abuse children and youths. This compares with other common estimates: that perhaps 1% of all adults and 2% of all adult males are abusive pedophiles. However, priests have freer ...[text shortened]... cle seems to state over and over, there is no precise data on which to base the percentages.
Originally posted by amannionYou hit the nail on the head there. I think this is exactly why we get upset. When a person with the power to do damage (supposedly very good in heart and soul) abuse his/her power to take advantage of defenseless people we get upset.
Our outrage over the priest who abuses kids is similar to that over a doctor who murders his/her patients. These are authority figures that many people place a lot of trust in and in some respects idolise.
When we realise that they're only humans - they have faults like anyone else - it can be a shock to the system and we can go over the top, which I woul goes astray.
You don't need to be a priest to be an abuser.
And many priests do not abuse.
Originally posted by stockenI don't think it's a matter of whether there should be such positions - the fact is there are such positions. And given that there are, some people are going to get pissed off by abuses of power that occur.
You hit the nail on the head there. I think this is exactly why we get upset. When a person with the power to do damage (supposedly very good in heart and soul) abuse his/her power to take advantage of defenseless people we get upset.
The question then is: Should there really be such a position available? Are priests really necessary as authorative ...[text shortened]... ll, so she fits most men's fantasies in one way or the other) to keep that urge under control?
Originally posted by amannionLet me put it this way. The structure of the catholic church is obviously lacking something or noone would be able to abuse their powers like that. It should be changed. Same is true for a lot of powerstructures in society.
I don't think it's a matter of whether there [b]should be such positions - the fact is there are such positions. And given that there are, some people are going to get pissed off by abuses of power that occur.
The virginity or otherwise of Mary is debatable.
There's good evidence to suggest that the early Christian church deliberately pushed e able to marry and where the whole 'I'm-married-to-the-lord' thing just isn't an issue.[/b]
Originally posted by amannionWhat Nonsense ! Doctors can make mistakes or be negligent, therefore when a patient dies it is not premeditated or willful.
Our outrage over the priest who abuses kids is similar to that over a doctor who murders his/her patients. These are authority figures that many people place a lot of trust in and in some respects idolise.
When we realise that they're only humans - they have faults like anyone else - it can be a shock to the system and we can go over the top, which I woul ...[text shortened]... goes astray.
You don't need to be a priest to be an abuser.
And many priests do not abuse.
Originally posted by Rajk999No, there are Doctor's who willfully use patients in experiements and then cover the tracks. The difference is that those Doctor's when discovered lose their job and gets prosecuted. Whereas a catholic priest apparently just gets prosecuted. 😕
What Nonsense ! Doctors can make mistakes or be negligent, therefore when a patient dies it is not premeditated or willful.
Understand the difference ?
Originally posted by stockenOr more likely just shipped off to another parish to abuse again.
No, there are Doctor's who willfully use patients in experiements and then cover the tracks. The difference is that those Doctor's when discovered lose their job and gets prosecuted. Whereas a catholic priest apparently just gets prosecuted. 😕