Proof there is no god:

We are making a total mess of this jewel of a planet, destroying the oceans, going acidic, killing off coral reefs, in the middle of a mass extinction event, the climate maybe already at a tipping point.

If some god actually created the place, it would be PISSED royal at the way we are absolutely mucking up the whole planet.

It would come down with a vengence and ZAP, no more humanity, all our nukes, nukes supply plants down, stripping human influence of the planet, culling CO2 out of the atmosphere so calm greets the waters and Earth starts to recover ready for the NEXT experiment in intelligence. Clearly OUR intelligence as a species is totally lacking.

Right, rationalize it all out by pulling the 'free will' card. If there were really a god watching over this planet, just how much bullshyte do you think it would tolerate from such a brass, narcissistic power driven species as humans?

Originally posted by sonhouse
We are making a total mess of this jewel of a planet, destroying the oceans, going acidic, killing off coral reefs, in the middle of a mass extinction event, the climate maybe already at a tipping point.

If some god actually created the place, it would be PISSED royal at the way we are absolutely mucking up the whole planet.

It would come down with a ...[text shortened]... e do you think it would tolerate from such a brass, narcissistic power driven species as humans?

You're feeling pessimistic.

About creator gods: who knows what their goals may be? Thinking they want us to have all butterflies and rainbows? Maybe all this isn't even about people at all.

About the earth: it'll be okay. Different of course, but we're wising up. We dodged nuclear war so far, and we'll rehab off of fossil fuel and get control of population too. We'll learn to make self-sufficient colonies off-planet. The future is bright.

Or our species will die off and none of it will matter anymore. Win-win.

I think because of the evidence around us we can confidently say 2 things;

1. Certain Creator gods do not exist.

2. The possibility of any Creator god(s) existing is so small that it is for all practical purposes zero.

Originally posted by sonhouse
We are making a total mess of this jewel of a planet, destroying the oceans, going acidic, killing off coral reefs, in the middle of a mass extinction event, the climate maybe already at a tipping point.

If some god actually created the place, it would be PISSED royal at the way we are absolutely mucking up the whole planet.

It would come down with a ...[text shortened]... e do you think it would tolerate from such a brass, narcissistic power driven species as humans?

Yes, are you ready?

Originally posted by sonhouse
We are making a total mess of this jewel of a planet, destroying the oceans, going acidic, killing off coral reefs, in the middle of a mass extinction event, the climate maybe already at a tipping point.

If some god actually created the place, it would be PISSED royal at the way we are absolutely mucking up the whole planet.

It would come down with a ...[text shortened]... e do you think it would tolerate from such a brass, narcissistic power driven species as humans?

So it's only ok for God to exercise judgement when it suits you? I find it interesting that you are up in arms about the old testament when people who were sacrificing their own children were brought to justice but now you are up in arms again because God is not zapping anyone.

Originally posted by dj2becker
So it's only ok for God to exercise judgement when it suits you? I find it interesting that you are up in arms about the old testament when people who were sacrificing their own children were brought to justice but now you are up in arms again because God is not zapping anyone.

Gods solution to people sacrificing their own children: sacrifice all the children and the adults too, and all the animals just for good measure.

No wonder so many fundamentalists see violence as the only solution to anything.

Originally posted by twhitehead
Gods solution to people sacrificing their own children: sacrifice all the children and the adults too, and all the animals just for good measure.

No wonder so many fundamentalists see violence as the only solution to anything.

With Twhitehead in charge they would all get a pat on the back ey?

In your opinion God should have no right to take a life that he has given? Is it God's fault as well if people die of natural causes?

Originally posted by dj2becker
With Twhitehead in charge they would all get a pat on the back ey?

In your opinion God should have no right to take a life that he has given? Is it God's fault as well if people die of natural causes?

In your bible, your alleged god gets really pissed. And that for a few tribes that can't muster the power to change anything world wide.

Now, humans are destroying the entire ecosystem built up over billions of years and this god of yours that you admit got REALLY pissed a few thousand years ago, is now silent in light of the absolute damage humans are causing?

I say bollocks, the god that got so pissed in the past was just stories made up by men and people just fall all overthemselves to believe hook line and sinker, the biggest scam humanity has ever known.

Your supposedly loving god does nothing while literally hundreds of millions of humans die in wars and genicide is good enough proof for me if it exists it cares nothing for the fate of humanity.

The entire human race could die with no response from this so-called god. We have lost a good portion of the entire human race several times in the past like the plague a thousand years ago that killed fully one third of the population of Europe and no god came down and said, kill the dam rats, they have these little fleas that are infecting you poor souls, I love you so much I can't stand by while this goes on.

You see any sign of that happening? No, and we never will since the whole god thing is just made up stories for the express purpose of controlling men and subjugating women. All wrapped up with 'free will' and a gracious loving god.

Bollocks.

Originally posted by dj2becker
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In your opinion God should have no right to take a life that he has given? ...

Might makes right. And we can do with our children as we please.

This is Christian morality.

Originally posted by sonhouse
In your bible, your alleged god gets really pissed. And that for a few tribes that can't muster the power to change anything world wide.

Now, humans are destroying the entire ecosystem built up over billions of years and this god of yours that you admit got REALLY pissed a few thousand years ago, is now silent in light of the absolute damage humans are c ...[text shortened]... and subjugating women. All wrapped up with 'free will' and a gracious loving god.

Bollocks.

The thing is, it is the people not the ecosystem that is very important. It was never, ever
suppose to be the people that change anything world wide, what they were supposed to
do was to live righteously before God. God spoke the universe into reality, but people they
choose which way they want to go, they choose what they want to do, unlike a ecosystem
that just is, and goes about as design.

You really should stop playing around with make believe gods, and start looking at the
real one.

Originally posted by KellyJay
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You really should stop playing around with make believe gods, and start looking at the
real one.

mother earth

Originally posted by apathist
Might makes right. And we can do with our children as we please.

This is Christian morality.

Why don't you tell me what makes right? Is it what your society tells you or is it what you decide?

Originally posted by dj2becker
Why don't you tell me what makes right? What your society tells you? What you decide?

Ethics and morality.

You've decided that might makes right, and that is your privilege do to so.

Originally posted by apathist
Ethics and morality.

You've decided that might makes right, and that is your privilege do to so.

By that logic Nazi Germany used their privilege to decide what is right for them? That's where your ethics and morality gets you.

Originally posted by dj2becker
By that logic Nazi Germany used their privilege to decide what is right for them? That's where your ethics and morality gets you.

Here we go again! Step right up folks, it's the ride that never ends.