Originally posted by Rajk999is my god any more untrue than yours? my god guides me, teaches me awareness that all life is precious; i feel my god most when i sit on the hill tops while the sun warms my face; there i feel at one with my god; that to my heart feels right; i found it not by listening to quotes from the bible but by listening to my inner voice; i found my god not by being in a church and prasing a cross, but by being with nature and praising life... my god is your god, but at present you hide his face behind the wall of religion
Your god which you like to think is real is a fabrication of your mind.
Im not sure whats the point of that but, ..hey .. whatever turns you on !!
There are institutions for people like you. And youre absolutely right ... people like me with their feet planted firmly on the ground are light years behind, and I hope it stays that way.
Originally posted by eatmybishopYou don't believe in God, but in the next paragraph you write "and god said to you"-- quite a contradiction, don't you think?🙂
i do not believe in god or any religion; however, i would consider myself a good person, i have never intentionally harmed anyone and i try my best to treat any race or colour with dignity and respect...
with this in mind, when i die, if i stood at the gates of heaven and god said to you, "you choose whether to let him into heaven or send him to hell?", what would you do?
Originally posted by eatmybishopThe god you believe in is made up by you and is therefore fictional. When you die, your god dies.
is my god any more untrue than yours?
The God I believe in is the one described in the Bible and there is a chance that the Bible and its doctrine of salvation and heaven and hell and punishment and whatever ..... IS TRUE !
But I doubt you understand the difference. You are going to reply with some more nonsense.
Originally posted by Rajk999There is a chance Islam is true too. Why aren't you worshipping that God?
The God I believe in is the one described in the Bible and there is a chance that the Bible and its doctrine of salvation and heaven and hell and punishment and whatever ..... IS TRUE !
Or perhaps the Maori gods are more to your liking? Maybe the Viking gods, which certainly seem more fun.
Perhaps the FSM is for you -who knows?
Originally posted by Rajk999Actually it is you who doesn't understand the similarity (or probability for that matter). As far as I am concerned the chance that your God or the FSM are true is exactly equal and is so close to Zero as to be not worth considering. Chance or probability is not a property of an object (or imaginary object) but rather a function of the information available to you.
The god you believe in is made up by you and is therefore fictional. When you die, your god dies.
The God I believe in is the one described in the Bible and there is a chance that the Bible and its doctrine of salvation and heaven and hell and punishment and whatever ..... IS TRUE !
But I doubt you understand the difference. You are going to reply with some more nonsense.
So the real difference has to do with information but you probably couldn't answer that question so you sidestepped it.
Originally posted by eatmybishoprobot answering. my answer is there for you to read it and weep.
that's the whole point of the question, god has given you the power to let me in or not, how much of a robot are you? you answer the question by simply giving the power back to god... will you think for yourself just for once and answer the question, i try again:
what would YOU do???????
Originally posted by Rajk999okay, prove to me your god is more real than mine and i back down and apologise... oh, please, dont start waffling on about the bible... it's just a book... i want solid proof... let's see how real your god really is
The god you believe in is made up by you and is therefore fictional. When you die, your god dies.
The God I believe in is the one described in the Bible and there is a chance that the Bible and its doctrine of salvation and heaven and hell and punishment and whatever ..... IS TRUE !
But I doubt you understand the difference. You are going to reply with some more nonsense.
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Originally posted by Crushing Dayyeah, if you actually got your mum to explain it to you, you'd realise my point was god turns out to be true even though i didnt realise this at the time during my life, only when i died; am i still allowed entry into heaven for being a good person...? if you have trouble with this explanation as well i write in capitals for you next time
You don't believe in God, but in the next paragraph you write "and god said to you"-- quite a contradiction, don't you think?🙂
Originally posted by twhiteheadI dont get in involved with debates on whether or not God exists. There is no solid proof that God exists .. at least not the kind of proof you seem to want. What does exist is voluminous evidence of a historical nature that many of the people referred to in the Bible did exist.
Actually it is you who doesn't understand the similarity (or probability for that matter). As far as I am concerned the chance that your God or the FSM are true is exactly equal and is so close to Zero as to be not worth considering. Chance or probability is not a property of an object (or imaginary object) but rather a function of the information availab ...[text shortened]... s to do with information but you probably couldn't answer that question so you sidestepped it.
Believing in a God and adhering to certain moral principles does not cost anything. In fact it improves your life if you are not an extremist (although they are many extremists that take religion too far). Not believing in a God can be risky if it turns out that there is actually one. Everyone has to make their own choice.
We now know what each other believes. Good Luck to you in that regard.