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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Matthew 25:46?

2 Thessalonians 1:9?

Matthew 13:50?

Mark 9:43?

Matthew 25:41?

Just to name a few others.

http://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/hell-bible-verses/
If you had read these passages you would see that nothing in them speaks of eternal / everlasting torture.

There is everlasting fire.
There is wailing and gnashing of teeth.
There is everlasting destruction and everlasting punishment

The word destruction means that the person ceases to exist. If the person feels pain and is tortured then that is not destruction.


Originally posted by FMF
Do you believe this means that the "damned" are tortured in flames for eternity?
I refer you back to the views I expressed in posts addressed to you earlier.


Originally posted by Rajk999
If you had read these passages you would see that nothing in them speaks of eternal / everlasting torture.

There is everlasting fire.
There is wailing and gnashing of teeth.
There is everlasting destruction and everlasting punishment

The word destruction means that the person ceases to exist. If the person feels pain and is tortured then that is not destruction.
If the person ceases to exist it is not everlasting punishment now is it?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I refer you back to the views I expressed in posts addressed to you earlier.
But you have been studiously avoiding answering the question - "Do you believe this means that the "damned" are tortured in flames for eternity?" - throughout this thread. You haven't expressed a view as whether the words from the Bible you quoted refer to people being tortured in flames for eternity. That's why I am asking you again ~ specifically because you have dodged the point blank question.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
If the person ceases to exist it is not everlasting punishment now is it?
Would you describe yourself as an annihilationist?

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Correct .. Neither does everlasting punishment require everlasting torture.


Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
If the person ceases to exist it is not everlasting punishment now is it?
Yes it is. Punishment is a state of paying for ones sins. The wages of sin is death. Those who are found worthy of death are destroyed without the hope of resurrection. Hence the term everlasting punishment. Everlasting torture is not taught in the bible. Pain and suffering is part of it Yes but that pain and suffering is not eternal.


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For example, despite Fetchmyjunk dying a death 7 pages ago, the fellow seems intent on everlasting punishment in this forum.

Like a dead horse saying "flog me! flog me!"



Originally posted by FMF
But you have been studiously avoiding answering the question - "Do you believe this means that the "damned" are tortured in flames for eternity?" - throughout this thread. You haven't expressed a view as whether the words from the Bible you quoted refer to people being tortured in flames for eternity. That's why I am asking you again ~ specifically because you have dodged the point blank question.
I only believe what the Bible says. I think it does say that but I may be wrong, I am open to other interpretations that make sense.


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If my interpretation of the Bible is correct, then yes. Feel free to share a different interpretation if you have one.

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