Question for the Geester

Originally posted by FMF
If neither you nor divegeester ~ Christians the both of you ~ are going to be "damned", then what on earth have you been wittering on about for nine pages?

I have been talking about the punishment we deserve if we were 'damned' and not 'saved'. I can't claim to know for sure that someone is saved merely if they claim to be Christian.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Me calling myself a Christian doesn't automatically make me one.

You admit you "sin". If they aren't "willful sins", what kind of "sins" are yours?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I can't claim to know for sure that someone is saved merely if they claim to be Christian.

So, it was fair to say that you don't really know what you believe, yes?

Originally posted by FMF
You admit you "sin". If they aren't "willful sins", what kind of "sins" are yours?

No one is perfect we can still sin be it unintentionally.

Originally posted by FMF
So, it was fair to say that you don't really know what you believe, yes?

What have I said that makes you think that?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
No one is perfect we can still sin be it unintentionally.

So your "sins" are what... accidental? Not entirely your fault? How can you be sure they aren't "willful"?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
What have I said that makes you think that?

The post of yours I was responding to.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I have been talking about the punishment we deserve if we were 'damned' and not 'saved'.

Why? I am fairly sure nobody asked you that. What they have been asking, and you have been dodging, is what punishment you think people will actually get.

Originally posted by FMF
So your "sins" are what... accidental? Not entirely your fault? How can you be sure they aren't "willful"?

If you did something willfully you would know.

FMF: You believe that "the condemned will be cast in a fire that is not quenched and where the worm doesn't die"; what does that mean exactly?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
It literally means exactly what it says what else could it mean?

Many Christians interpret these words to mean that people are tortured in flames for eternity. If they don't mean exactly that for you, what do those words mean?

Originally posted by twhitehead
Why? I am fairly sure nobody asked you that. What they have been asking, and you have been dodging, is what punishment you think people will actually get.

If you read my posts you would notice that I believe we all deserve the same punishment.

-Removed-

Correct. So if you don't believe in an eternal hell what do you believe in?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
If you did something willfully you would know.

Your quip is merely a dodge. Here is the question again, because it goes to the very heart of what you seem to be wittering on about (hence your dodge): 'So your "sins" are what... accidental? Not entirely your fault? How can you be sure they aren't "willful"?'