Originally posted by robbie carrobieI notice you left out this part of the wiki page -
they are, the most accurate Biblical translation known to the English speaking world!
As associate professor Jason David BeDuhn reminds us, who just happens to have
reviewed nine of the most common English translations in his rather wonderful book,
Truth In Translation: Accuracy and Bias in English Translations of the New
Testament. by Jason ...[text shortened]... n_of_the_Holy_Scriptures
now what have you got to say for yourself, jaw on floor?
BeDuhn said the introduction of the name "Jehovah" into the New Testament 237 times was "not accurate translation by the most basic principle of accuracy", and that it "violate[s] accuracy in favor of denominationally preferred expressions for God", adding that for the NWT to gain wider acceptance and prove its worth its translators might have to abandon the use of "Jehovah" in the New Testament.
Originally posted by Proper Knob[/b]yes I know, i have read his book. His main objection is that the name does not occur
I notice you left out this part of the wiki page -BeDuhn said the introduction of the name "Jehovah" into the New Testament 237 times was "[b]not accurate translation by the most basic principle of accuracy", and that it "violate[s] accuracy in favor of denominationally preferred expressions for God", adding that for the NWT to gain wider ...[text shortened]... its translators might have to abandon the use of "Jehovah" in the New Testament.
in the original Greek manuscripts, never the less, it does occur in the Hebrew text and
there are many direct quotations from it in the Greek portion of scripture and we have
undertaken a diligent study in order to restore the divine name to its original place
from whence it was removed by unscrupulous translation, in all of some three hundred
instances where we we have restored the divine name we have references for doing so
in every case except for one. Admit it, we are awesome.
Originally posted by FMFI have told him i am uninterested in his questions, they lead not to anything fruitful but
Surely you have to stop evading divegeester's question BEFORE you can say something like this to him?
contentions, if he has a biblical reference then fine, otherwise, concerning our beliefs,
he can visit www.watchtower.org and have a pleasant day. Jesus himself refused to
answer questions when his went unanswered!
Originally posted by FMFok, as you wish and yes i call him a hypocrite, for his accusations are on the basis that
So you won't answer his question but you call HIM a hypocrite? That doesn't seem right, robbie.
we refuse to answer questions when he himself has done the very same thing, what
would you call it?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI would call it evasion on your part on this thread. Almost comically so. divegeester as a matter of routine talks about his beliefs and answers questions. On this thread your efforts to evade answering a point blank question have been conspicuously unconvincing to me, as an observer. Just saying.
ok, as you wish and yes i call him a hypocrite, for his accusations are on the basis that
we refuse to answer questions when he himself has done the very same thing, what
would you call it?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWell, OK. You don't want to answer the question about your beliefs if it's divegeester who is asking it. So how put your personal thing with him aside: how about if I ask? Is it possible for a non-Jehovah's Witness to enter the heaven, or inherit the paradise Earth that you often talk about?
i have given these scriptural references, its enough, we dont need to debate anything, we have our beliefs, we are very happy with them...
Originally posted by FMFYou can call it what you like, if there is a scriptural basis for his question, then let him
I would call it evasion on your part on this thread. Almost comically so. divegeester as a matter of routine talks about his beliefs and answers questions. On this thread your efforts to evade answering a point blank question have been conspicuously unconvincing to me, as an observer. Just saying.
produce it, the Bibles a rather large book, surely he can find a single verse on which to
base his question, if there is none then there is nothing to discuss.
Originally posted by FMFdo you have a scriptural basis for your question? please produce the reference and we
Well, OK. You don't want to answer the question about your beliefs if it's divegeester who is asking it. So how put your personal thing with him aside: how about if I ask? Is it possible for a non-Jehovah's Witness to enter the heaven, or inherit the paradise Earth that you often talk about?
can discuss it, otherwise, why are you asking me about a belief that is not scripturally
based? our beliefs are based on scripture and it therefore becomes necessary to
produce the reference, will you now do so.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHe's asking about your belief, robbie. What risk do you run by answering the question? I cannot understand why you would be willing to come across as so furtive about it. Honestly. What pressure are you under here which is not immediately clear to those of us observing your evasive behaviour?
You can call it what you like, if there is a scriptural basis for his question, then let him
produce it, the Bibles a rather large book, surely he can find a single verse on which to
base his question, if there is none then there is nothing to discuss.
Originally posted by FMFwhere is the scriptural reference to the question, if there is none, then its not my belief,
He's asking about your belief, robbie. What risk do you run by answering the question? I cannot understand why you would be willing to come across as so furtive about it. Honestly. What pressure are you under here which is not immediately clear to those of us observing your evasive behaviour?
my beliefs are based on scripture, the reference FMF, where is the scriptural
reference? I am under no pressure whatsoever FMF, until you produce a scriptural
reference the onus is not on me, but you to state why you are asking me questions not
about my beliefs, but what you presume them to be.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat are your beliefs with regard to Jehovah's Witnesses inheriting the paradise Earth - which you often mention - and what are your beliefs with regard to non-Jehovah's Witnesses doing so?
do you have a scriptural basis for your question? please produce the reference and we
can discuss it, otherwise, why are you asking me about a belief that is not scripturally
based? our beliefs are based on scripture and it therefore becomes necessary to
produce the reference, will you now do so.