Originally posted by @philokaliaDescribe some forms of tyranny and suggest what you think would be a Biblically supported response to each of them.
It is an empty statement unless we know what a tyrant is.
But it is generally true that we have a duty to oppose evil and do good.
Originally posted by @philokaliaYou think the American rebellion against the British state/monarchy was "Not cool. Not fun. Not interesting"?
However, we do know that Franklin would just be really Libertarian and cosnider some sensible British Monarch a tyrant.
Not cool. Not fun. Not interesting.
Originally posted by @fmfI can't think of anything that would really be anything but obvious, e.g., committing murder of civilians en masse.
Describe some forms of tyranny and suggest what you think would be a Biblically supported response to each of them.
I am not sure what a proper response would be because it could be different based on what would be a realistic outcome.
Originally posted by @fmfYeah, I don't th ink it was very cool or interesting.
You think the American rebellion against the British state/monarchy was "Not cool. Not fun. Not interesting"?
It sounded like it was just very wealthy people who disliked being taxed and wanted to be part of some parliamentary process, but weren't even that serious about the second part.
Originally posted by @philokaliaIf you can't think of anything and therefore you're not sure what the proper response would be to any of the things you can't think of, then that would suggest that the Bible doesn't really provide you with any of the aforementioned support or guidance. That revelation, even if not quite what you intended, is relevant to the OP.
I can't think of anything that would really be anything but obvious, e.g., committing murder of civilians en masse.
I am not sure what a proper response would be because it could be different based on what would be a realistic outcome.
Originally posted by @fmfI actually wrote this:
If you can't think of anything and therefore you're not sure what the proper response would be to any of the things you can't think of, then that would suggest that the Bible doesn't really provide you with any of the aforementioned support or guidance. That revelation, even if not quite what you intended, is relevant to the OP.
- Obvious murder of innocents is a great example of tyranny.
- I can't provide an example of what I would do or what should be done because it would vary greatly on what can be reasonably expected.
Moreover, I do not think that the Bible actively comes up with some model for revolution or resistance to temporal government, lol.
You've read the Bible, right?
What do yuo expect form it?
Originally posted by @philokaliaAsk a Christian, not me. I am, as you know, an agnostic atheist.
You've read the Bible, right?
What do yuo expect form it?
Originally posted by @philokaliaGood. This is basically how I characterized what you'd said.
Moreover, I do not think that the Bible actively comes up with some model for revolution or resistance to temporal government,
Originally posted by @romans1009An agnostic atheist ?
What do you mean by agnostic atheist? Is that like the sign in the fish market that says “Jumbo shrimp?”
From what I've seen, that is an atheist who has noticed enough arguments for atheism fail, that he opts for the precaution of agnosticism too as a back up.
Originally posted by @sonshipI'm sure believing that helps you sleep at night. (Irrespective of its erroneous nature).
An agnostic atheist ?
From what I've seen, that is an atheist who has noticed enough arguments for atheism fail, that he opts for the precaution of agnosticism too as a back up.
Originally posted by @fmfLol, are you indicating the Bible because it doesn't have a specific outline or blueprint for organized rebellion against tyranny?
Good. This is basically how I characterized what you'd said.
When you talk to an atheist it becomes clear that the Bible is inadequate because it doesn't function as a physics textbook or a Communist Manifesto.
Originally posted by @philokaliaOr a biology textbook.
Lol, are you indicating the Bible because it doesn't have a specific outline or blueprint for organized rebellion against tyranny?
When you talk to an atheist it becomes clear that the Bible is inadequate because it doesn't function as a physics textbook or a Communist Manifesto.
I remember sonhouse going on and on, about how an all-knowing god could just tell humans about roundworms and Trichinosis, instead of just saying don't eat pork.