Originally posted by @romans1009It's really simple. The point of the question is to gain an understanding of what you think John 6:25-65 is saying. John 6:47 is contained within this passage. To truly understand what John 6:47 is saying, one needs to understand what the passage as a whole is saying.
Are you saying the passage you identified contradicts verse 47?
If not, I’m not sure what the point of your question is.
It's reading comprehension 101.
How do you interpret these verses from Hebrews? While not in the Gospels, Paul, the author of Hebrews, was appointed by Jesus Christ to deliver the Gospel to the Gentiles. Jesus Christ Himself made this appointment in the book of Acts.
“But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.“
(Hebrews 10:12-14)
Originally posted by @thinkofoneThe questions I asked have to do with the legitimacy and integrity of the question that you asked.
It's really simple. If you have no passages that you can cite, then just say so. If you do, then cite them.
None of your questions have anything to do with whether or not you have passages you can cite.
Originally posted by @thinkofoneSince the longer passage interests you, why don’t you say how you understand it and what you think its message is?
It's really simple. The point of the question is to gain an understanding of what you think John 6:25-65 is saying. John 6:47 is contained within this passage. To truly understand what John 6:47 is saying, one needs to understand what the passage as a whole is saying.
It's reading comprehension 101.
Are you interested in answering questions too, or just asking them?
Originally posted by @romans1009You're the one who assigned a meaning to John 6:47. It's up to you to demonstrate that you understand John 6:25-6:65 (which is the passage from which it was extracted) and explain how your interpretation of John 6;47 makes sense within that understanding.
Since the longer passage interests you, why don’t you say how you understand it and what you think its message is?
Are you interested in answering questions too, or just asking them?
Originally posted by @romans1009It's really simple. If you have no passages that you can cite, then just say so. If you do, then cite them.
The questions I asked have to do with the legitimacy and integrity of the question that you asked.
Would it kill you to acknowledge that you have none?
Originally posted by @thinkofoneI already identified two from the Gospels and asked for your interpretation.
It's really simple. If you have no passages that you can cite, then just say so. If you do, then cite them.
Would it kill you to acknowledge that you have none?
Originally posted by @thinkofoneIf you think the meaning of John 6:47 is different from what it says, then state why. I think the meaning is clear, additionally because Jesus Christ expressed similar statements elsewhere in the Gospels.
You're the one who assigned a meaning to John 6:47. It's up to you to demonstrate that you understand John 6:25-6:65 (which is the passage from which it was extracted) and explain how your interpretation of John 6;47 makes sense within that understanding.
Originally posted by @romans1009Perhaps you have lost the context of this line of discussion. This is where we started:
I already identified two from the Gospels and asked for your interpretation.
"Cite passages from the gospel that Jesus preached where He said this."
Your assertion is a half-truth at best.
Originally posted by @romans1009I've been giving you every opportunity to post something substantive about John 6:25-65. If you have nothing substantive to say about it, just say so.
If you think the meaning of John 6:47 is different from what it says, then state why. I think the meaning is clear, additionally because Jesus Christ expressed similar statements elsewhere in the Gospels.
Originally posted by @thinkofoneFeel free to respond with substance to what I have posted.
Perhaps you have lost the context of this line of discussion. This is where we started:
"Cite passages from the gospel that Jesus preached where He said this."
Your assertion is a half-truth at best.
Originally posted by @thinkofoneIt’s not for me to prove your case. If you think John 6:47 says other than its plain reading, make your case.
I've been giving you every opportunity to post something substantive about John 6:25-65. If you have nothing substantive to say about it, just say so.
It’s not up to me to justify your opinions.
Why do you think Jesus advised people to pray the way He recommended in the Gospel of Matthew?
“After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.“
(Matthew 6:9-13)
Why did Jesus advise people on a daily basis to ask for forgiveness of sins?
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Originally posted by @romans1009I've been trying to get you to justify your opinion and thus far you've refused.
It’s not for me to prove your case. If you think John 6:47 says other than its plain reading, make your case.
It’s not up to me to justify your opinions.
If you were in fact the authority on the Bible that you seem to like to think, you wouldn't have any trouble with the requests I have been making of you. This was your chance to prove it. Your refusal indicates that you have a superficial understanding at best.