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    "In the latest study to link church-going with well-being, researchers find that people who attend religious services regularly are more optimistic and less depressed than their non-religious peers.

    Previous research has suggested that people who attend services are also happier and more satisfied and live longer too. (On the other hand, they tend to be fatter.)

    The new study, published in the Journal of Religion and Health, included data on 93,000 middle-aged women who participated in the long-running Women's Health Initiative. Led by Eliezer Schnall, an associate professor of clinical psychology at Yeshiva University in New York City, researchers found that women who attended religious services at least once a week were 56% more likely to score above average on a survey of optimism than non-religious women. They were also 22% less likely to be depressed.

    The study didn't examine why people who go to a church (or synagogue, temple or mosque) have a sunnier outlook — it could be that naturally optimistic people are those who tend to attend religious services — but the findings fall in line with previous studies that suggest that the psychological benefits of religious practice may stem from the social interaction it involves.

    As Healthland's Alice Park reported last December:

    [A]ccording to a study led by Chaeyoon Lim, a sociology professor at University of Wisconsin-Madison, the reason religion makes us happy may have more to do with friends than with faith.

    Using data from the Faith Matters Study, a survey of U.S. adults conducted in 2006 and 2007, Lim and his colleagues found that 33% of those who attended religious services every week and reported having close friends at church said they were extremely satisfied with their lives, while only 19% of those who went to church but had no close connections to the congregation reported the same satisfaction.

    "To me, the evidence substantiates that it is not really going to church and listening to sermons or praying that makes people happier, but making church-based friends and building intimate social networks there," Lim said in a statement at the time.

    Indeed, the new study also found that regular attendees of religious services were 28% more likely to report having positive social support than people who didn't practice religion. The authors note further that older women, the group the study focused on, have been found in past studies to be more social at services and to benefit more from them.

    Maybe it's the socializing that also helps explain why religious people may live longer and why they tend to gain more weight — those church socials involve a lot of eating.

    It's not clear whether regular trips to a house of worship would benefit younger folks or men equally, but in general, religious practice is known to ease anxiety and encourage a more positive worldview. If you aren't big on organized religion, though, take heart: participating in other regular social activities and common-interest clubs can offer many of the same social benefits."

    Find this article at:
    http://healthland.time.com/2011/11/11/study-religious-folks-have-a-sunnier-outlook/
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    12 Nov '11 11:47
    Sounds like the investigators were biased. There are studies that show the happiest people live in Scandinavian countries where religious beliefs are way down.
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    12 Nov '11 11:59
    Originally posted by 667joe
    Sounds like the investigators were biased. There are studies that show the happiest people live in Scandinavian countries where religious beliefs are way down.
    Scandinavia isn't in the U.S.

    Do you know of any studies that show the happiest people living in Scandinavian countries are the "religious folks"?
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    12 Nov '11 13:17
    Originally posted by FMF
    "In the latest study to link church-going with well-being, researchers find that people who attend religious services regularly are more optimistic and less depressed than their non-religious peers.

    Previous research has suggested that people who attend services are also happier and more satisfied and live longer too. (On the other hand, they tend to be fatte ...[text shortened]...
    http://healthland.time.com/2011/11/11/study-religious-folks-have-a-sunnier-outlook/
    I think that's a large part of it. Science, by undermining religion, also destroyed that social network and left non-religious people as atomized individuals. So people are put in the position of having to choose between scientific truth, which has little direct bearing on their lives, and religious community, which has a very direct bearing on their lives.
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    Originally posted by rwingett
    I think that's a large part of it. Science, by undermining religion, also destroyed that social network and left non-religious people as atomized individuals. So people are put in the position of having to choose between scientific truth, which has little direct bearing on their lives, and religious community, which has a very direct bearing on their lives.
    Bull, as usual.

    There are secular social networks that do all the social stuff that religions do without any of the associated stupidity to go with it.

    Also many religious people embrace science, most people who believe in evolution are Christians for example.

    And science explains how and why socialising has such a beneficial effect on us, and we can use that knowledge to improve our social lives and society for the benefit of everyone.

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    How does it feel to be so consistently wrong about everything?
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    12 Nov '11 14:11
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Bull, as usual.

    There are secular social networks that do all the social stuff that religions do without any of the associated stupidity to go with it.

    Also many religious people embrace science, most people who believe in evolution are Christians for example.

    And science explains how and why socialising has such a beneficial effect on us, and w ...[text shortened]... Xk&feature=channel_video_title

    How does it feel to be so consistently wrong about everything?
    Do you deny that religions provide a greater sense of community than secular society?
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    Originally posted by rwingett
    Do you deny that religions provide a greater sense of community than secular society?
    Depends what you are talking about.

    There are secular social networks of people, (and social networks of people that have no
    religious position) that have at least as much 'sense of community' as any church group.

    However there are also both secular and religious groups who are much less social and supportive.

    It is probably true that in some/many places that society is 'atomised' and this is a bad thing.
    However it is not the fault of science or atheism.

    And moreover, you don't need religion to create good social groups.
    [EDIT: and science explain why which makes blaming it particularly questionable]

    The fact that religions are, in general, good at making social networks doesn't make them
    the only game in town, and they do come with some serious downsides.


    So yes, I do deny that religions provide a 'greater' sense of community than secular society.

    But that's comparing secular 'society' with religious 'society', not religious society with no society,
    secular or otherwise.


    (an example of a non-religious social group that's incredibly tightly bound together would be a well run
    military unit. Just making the point that religion isn't the only or strongest social binding force.)
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    Originally posted by FMF
    "In the latest study to link church-going with well-being, researchers find that people who attend religious services regularly are more optimistic and less depressed than their non-religious peers.

    Previous research has suggested that people who attend services are also happier and more satisfied and live longer too. (On the other hand, they tend to be fatte ...[text shortened]...
    http://healthland.time.com/2011/11/11/study-religious-folks-have-a-sunnier-outlook/
    So those that go to church live longer and are fatter? Why the answer is obvious. Start eating junk food and gain a little weight and you should live just as long as the religious folk. 😵

    BTW: It's all in the genes. We have the God gene, which incidently, makes us live longer, so all you atheists just stop torturing yourselves. Nothing can be done for ya!!
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    12 Nov '11 15:15
    Originally posted by whodey
    We have the God gene, which incidently, makes us live longer, so all you atheists just stop torturing yourselves. Nothing can be done for ya!!
    Why do you refer to me as an atheist?
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    12 Nov '11 15:17
    Originally posted by FMF
    Why do you refer to me as an atheist?
    He might not in context be referring to you, he could be talking to atheists in general.
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    12 Nov '11 15:18
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    He might not in context be referring to you, he could be talking to atheists in general.
    The post was addressed to me.
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    12 Nov '11 15:21
    Originally posted by FMF
    The post was addressed to me.
    He was responding to your op, that doesn't mean that his use of 'all you atheists' was meant to include you.
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    Originally posted by googlefudge
    He was responding to your op, that doesn't mean that his use of 'all you atheists' was meant to include you.
    If he responds to me and addresses me like he did, and he uses the word 'you', then he is referring to me, clearly. I am just curious as to why he has chosen to suggest I am an atheist when he has been on this web site for several years and surely knows it isn't so.
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    Originally posted by FMF
    If he responds to me and addresses me like he did, and he uses the word 'you', then he is referring to me, clearly. I am just curious as to why he has chosen to suggest I am an atheist when he has been on this web site for several years and surely knows it isn't so.
    Again, in context this part of the post can easily be read, and I think more naturally so, as
    an aside to 'all us atheists' rather than specifically talking to you.

    it would be like responding to someone's post and talking about it and then having a shout out to all you Lakers fans out there... it's not necessarily intended to include the person you are originally responding/talking to.
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    12 Nov '11 15:36
    Originally posted by FMF
    Why do you refer to me as an atheist?
    Calm down man. If you have the God gene and love handles to go along with it, you are golden.

    BTW: Do you attend church or just believe in a God?
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