1. Standard memberRJHinds
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    14 Nov '11 18:56
    Originally posted by FMF
    The research cited in the OP wasn't only referring to Christians when it spoke of 'religious folks'. You've only ever known one Muslim, so you can't comment on Muslims from personal experience, but how about Jews and Hindus and other religious people. Does your observation of them support the findings of the research?
    I can not say for sure for most of my contact is with Christian people. We
    are a happy bunch.
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    15 Nov '11 09:53
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I can not say for sure for most of my contact is with Christian people. We
    are a happy bunch.
    I think that is true for many; after all "Ignorance is bliss", but that does not mean that converting to a Christianity (or any other religion) will make you happy - it just means that Christians are happy.
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    15 Nov '11 21:03
    Originally posted by FMF
    How could I know the answer to that?
    Am I the only one here who recalls your articulate presentation of what I called “intuitional theism”? (I would expand that to “open and intuitional theism”.)
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    15 Nov '11 23:34
    Originally posted by vistesd
    Am I the only one here who recalls your articulate presentation of what I called “intuitional theism”? (I would expand that to “open and intuitional theism”.)
    whodey is questioning me about my "religion" when, as you suggest, surely he knows full well that I am not a religionist. I don't see how me speculating about the effect of something hypothetical, couched in a way that conforms to his religionist terms of reference (and not mine), is of any benefit or relevance to him. Even more so when, as you will have noted, he soon afterwards resorted to what struck me as a thought-annihilating cliche along the lines of 'escapism it is what the doctor ordered'. So it's as well that I did not invest too much of my time and effort typing out some speculations for him. 🙂
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    16 Nov '11 02:34
    Originally posted by FMF
    whodey is questioning me about my "religion" when, as you suggest, surely he knows full well that I am not a religionist. I don't see how me speculating about the effect of something hypothetical, couched in a way that conforms to his religionist terms of reference (and not mine), is of any benefit or relevance to him. Even more so when, as you will have noted, ...[text shortened]... t I did not invest too much of my time and effort typing out some speculations for him. 🙂
    You are a Muslim.
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    16 Nov '11 02:571 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    You are a Muslim.
    If I were, I would say so. But I am not. I am not a religionist of any brand or catagory.
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    17 Nov '11 00:19
    Originally posted by FMF
    If I were, I would say so. But I am not. I am not a religionist of any brand or catagory.
    So you just like the Muslims more than Christians, like myself?
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    17 Nov '11 00:21
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    So you just like the Muslims more than Christians, like myself?
    What are you on about?
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    17 Nov '11 07:13
    Originally posted by FMF
    What are you on about?
    Pardon?
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    17 Nov '11 07:29
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    So you just like the Muslims more than Christians, like myself?
    I think he would like anyone of any religion, or a Christian unlike you, more than a Christian like you.
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    22 Nov '11 20:073 edits
    Didn't know exactly where to put this.

    A Brief exchange on the idea "Let's kill God but keep Christian enfluence ".

    Daniel Dennett vs Dinesh D'souza

    Starting at 5 min 28 secs into the video on Scandanavian atheism and culture:

    YouTube&feature=related
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    24 Nov '11 13:25
    Originally posted by jaywill
    Didn't know exactly where to put this.

    A Brief exchange on the idea "Let's kill God but keep Christian influence ".

    Daniel Dennett vs Dinesh D'souza

    Starting at 5 min 28 secs into the video on Scandinavian atheism and culture:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1aiwcDRORI&feature=related
    Yeah, Nietzsche was wrong.
    It is entirely possible to have good solid morality without god, and the Scandinavian countries
    are good examples of that.

    I don't know many (well any actually) atheists who are nihilists and it certainly isn't a prerequisite
    or consequence of atheism.

    The fact that there is a direct correlation between a whole slew of indicators of societal health and
    how theistic it is (with the indicators getting worse the greater the theosity) is a strong indication
    that we don't need 'god', or the idea of god, to create a good moral code.
    (which is unsurprising given that the evidence strongly suggests that there is no god and never has
    been and thus all moral codes ever invented were invented by man)
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