Originally posted by robbie carrobieThere are huge differences in the definitions we are using about what makes an act homosexual. Some say that not all homosexuals do sex with members of the same sex, and not all who do sex with members of the same sex are homosexual.
if you rogered another male it would be a homosexual act, would it not?
Originally posted by JS357you can try to define what constitutes a homosexual if you like, but a homosexual act is what it is.
There are huge differences in the definitions we are using about what makes an act homosexual. Some say that not all homosexuals do sex with members of the same sex, and not all who do sex with members of the same sex are homosexual.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieTwo issues here -
oh but i did answer the question, that you failed to discern its import is your business, if someone practices homosexual acts, they are a homosexual are they not?
If sexuality is not immutable like you say, could you become gay?
If i am attracted to women but never have sex with a women, am i heterosexual?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieBeing a homosexual person does not mean doing homosexual acts. Surely you are not so stupid as to think that was the definition? No, you are not stupid, you are dishonest. You know perfectly well what the definition is, and you are dodging the question because you don't like the answer you would be required to give as it would contradict your earlier statement (which was stupid).
you can try to define what constitutes a homosexual if you like, but a homosexual act is what it is.
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Originally posted by Proper Knobanyone can engage in a homosexual act, I cannot say what defines whether a person is gay or not, it does not matter, for the Bible does not condemn the person, it condemns the act. If you are attracted to women and never have sex, that makes you a virgin.
Two issues here -
If sexuality is not immutable like you say, could you become gay?
If i am attracted to women but never have sex with a women, am i heterosexual?
The point is that even if you are attracted its not a causation for engaging in a sexual act is it. I have no doubt you see lots of attractive women, but I certainly don't think for a minute that you want to have sex with them, it therefore becomes a matter of morality.
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Originally posted by twhiteheadshut up, your condescension and willingness to attribute values to people that they do not advocate is annoying, try finding out what they do actually advocate before typing. I have yet to have a meaningful discussion with you on any subject and i don't see it changing any time soon. The number of times you resort to calling people dishonest when they are nothing of the sort is a reflection not of them, but of you, just shut up and annoy someone else, you imbecile.
Being a homosexual person does not mean doing homosexual acts. Surely you are not so stupid as to think that was the definition? No, you are not stupid, you are dishonest. You know perfectly well what the definition is, and you are dodging the question because you don't like the answer you would be required to give as it would contradict your earlier statement (which was stupid).
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Originally posted by robbie carrobiecan you define what a homosexual act it?
anyone can engage in a homosexual act, I cannot say what defines whether a person is gay or not, it does not matter, for the Bible does not condemn the person, it condemns the act. If you are attracted to women and never have sex, that makes you a virgin.
The point is that even if you are attracted its not a causation for engaging in a sexual act ...[text shortened]... nk for a minute that you want to have sex with them, it therefore becomes a matter of morality.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieA virgin yes, but how would you classify my sexual orientation? Homosexual or heterosexual?
anyone can engage in a homosexual act, I cannot say what defines whether a person is gay or not, it does not matter, for the Bible does not condemn the person, it condemns the act. If you are attracted to women and never have sex, that makes you a virgin.
The point is that even if you are attracted its not a causation for engaging in a sexual act ...[text shortened]... nk for a minute that you want to have sex with them, it therefore becomes a matter of morality.