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Originally posted by flyUnityThey need to follow orders or ship out.
Not Flawed, God Just gave everyone, Including angels, free will.
Do you think the angels should be living robots?
Originally posted by flyUnitySo how are we different than angels? I was always taught that angels were perfect. Does this mean that the messages carried by angels could have been misconstrued or altered by the angels?
Not Flawed, God Just gave everyone, Including angels, free will.
Do you think the angels should be living robots?
Originally posted by echeceroThis is a good question I have asked myself. To answer your question directly, I do not believe that an angel is capable of directly subverting an order of God. Such a thing would change the being by its very nature. A creature delivering a false message would not be an angel in the true sense of the term. A former angel, perhaps, but not an angel, and this would be a false message, not an altered one. I'm not going to cop out here by saying that God is omniscient, omnipotent, etc. I am going to give my two cents regarding celestial beings such as angels.
So how are we different than angels? I was always taught that angels were perfect. Does this mean that the messages carried by angels could have been misconstrued or altered by the angels?
Originally posted by echeceroTo tell you the truth, I dont really know myself, I dont think anyone completly does.
So how are we different than angels? I was always taught that angels were perfect. Does this mean that the messages carried by angels could have been misconstrued or altered by the angels?
Originally posted by OmnislashAre there any writings which deal with the pre-human period which are accepted by Christianity? I hear an awful lot of debate on the Bible which is post creation, but I've yet to hear, from a recognised source, where Satan came from in the first place. I've read Paradise Lost which deals with the story, but obviously this is a poem, not a religious text. Are there any? If not, how do we know where Satan came from and what factors created him?
This is a good question I have asked myself. To answer your question directly, I do not believe that an angel is capable of directly subverting an order of God. Such a thing would change the being by its very nature. A creature delivering ...[text shortened]... . I hope my perception can be of use.
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Omnislash
Originally posted by StarrmanNot that this will answer your question, but the Wikipedia article on Lucifer is very good! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer) It seems Isaiah, who is meant to have written the story, was drawing on older myths...
Are there any writings which deal with the pre-human period which are accepted by Christianity? I hear an awful lot of debate on the Bible which is post creation, but I've yet to hear, from a recognised source, where Satan came from in the first place. I've read Paradise Lost which deals with the story, but obviously this is a poem, not a religious text. Are there any? If not, how do we know where Satan came from and what factors created him?
Originally posted by Bosse de NageMany myths have an element of truth...
Not that this will answer your question, but the Wikipedia article on Lucifer is very good! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer) It seems Isaiah, who is meant to have written the story, was drawing on older myths...
Did you know that the Maya had a similar myth?
"In the Popul Vuh, the Mayan book of creation, there is a figure that is uncanny ...[text shortened]... his overthrow. - Part 1, Chapter 4 "
Looks like another mythological archetype,
Originally posted by Bosse de NageI will read that, very intresting. It seems that there are a lot of things about Christianity which can be linked to other previous religions or cultures. For example, the archetypal picture of Jesus the Pantocrator found in St Sophia's ( http://www.stsophia.org/phototour/photo_image4.jpg ) and also in numerous other paintings from then on, is supposed to be based on the face of The Statue of Zeus, which was one of the seven wonders of the world. I don't doubt that a lot of images and even deities are the result of previous cultural myths/works of art etc.Not jus tin Christianity, but other religions as well.
Not that this will answer your question, but the Wikipedia article on Lucifer is very good! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer) It seems Isaiah, who is meant to have written the story, was drawing on older myths...
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Looks like another mythological archetype,
Originally posted by StarrmanFaces...proportions...sacred geometry...the golden section...well worth investigating.
I will read that, very intresting. It seems that there are a lot of things about Christianity which can be linked to other previous religions or cultures. For example, the archetypal picture of Jesus the Pantocrator found in St Sophia's ( http://www.stsophia.org/phototour/photo_image4.jpg ) and also in numerous other paintings from then on, is supposed t ...[text shortened]... previous cultural myths/works of art etc.Not jus tin Christianity, but other religions as well.