Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke'Recognize' is the key word in this analogy.
Imagine a town where everyone (as a result of loose living) had acquired massive debt on their credit cards, debt that they were unable to repay on their own. Then one day a mysterious chap arrives in town and inexplicably transfers the debt of every resident on to his own credit card. All their debts had become his own and every person in the town ...[text shortened]... o their old ways and acquire new debt that this time would result in their ultimate destruction.
The wise would learn from the 'chap', who teaches them how to live properly, and they listen.
While the 'fools' who knew the same teachings, rebelled and lived their own way some more.
In both cases, all were aware of the teachings and advice given by the 'chap'.
Now, we know that the 'chap' is Jesus, but it's interesting that atheists will not 'recognize' what Jesus did.
But does that matter?
Originally posted by @tom-wolseyI wouldn't trust your definition of true, let alone a religious group..
True, using my definition of Christians. .
Originally posted by @rajk999Not a matter of best just the way it is, Jesus perspective being the Word of God, just went about doing what the Father wanted to reveal God’s love for us, and take our sins upon Himself becoming sin. All of those writing about Him approach it not as the Word of God made flesh, but sinners saved by the blood of Jesus Christ!
Is that the best you have?
Originally posted by @wolfgang59Then I know I'm on the right track.
I wouldn't trust your definition of true, let alone a religious group..
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Originally posted by @chaney3Have you researched what happens to the human body when it is nailed to a cross? Jesus was also beaten to within an inch of his life before they even nailed him up. The soldiers scourged him, ripping strips of skin from his back and they divided up his clothes, since they knew he wouldn't need them.
I do believe.
But I find it hard to imagine that God would demand such a thing. It happened 2,000 years ago, and God didn't create our brains to process that.
And you don't think that the rest of us should be asked to make a simple decision to believe or not?
Originally posted by @tom-wolseyOh you're on the right track alright.
Then I know I'm on the right track.
The very right track.
And it's a dirt track.
Originally posted by @wolfgang59There are just two paths. One leads toward the truth, the other away.
Oh you're on the right track alright.
The very right track.
And it's a dirt track.
Originally posted by @secondsonJesus is the truth.
There are just two paths. One leads toward the truth, the other away.
His doctrine
His teachings
His commandments
Jesus is the way to eternal life
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. (Matthew 7:24-27 KJV)
The wise hear Chrsit and does his sayings
The foolish man does not.
Originally posted by @chaney3It's not with the brain one believes, but with the heart.
I do believe.
But I find it hard to imagine that God would demand such a thing. It happened 2,000 years ago, and God didn't create our brains to process that.
The heart is the center of our being. God wants the heart.
Proverbs 4:23
Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.
Matthew 22:37
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart,..
Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
The Word "heart" occurs in 99 verses of the New Testament in the KJV. Read them and you'll see what I mean.
Originally posted by @rajk999So why don't you believe everything Jesus said?
Jesus is the [b]truth.
His doctrine
His teachings
His commandments
Jesus is the way to eternal life
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell ...[text shortened]... 7:24-27 KJV)
The wise hear Chrsit and does his sayings
The foolish man does not.[/b]