Spirituality
12 Dec 06
12 Dec 06
Originally posted by no1marauderThe pope's stress test involves some type of a device known simply as "The Rack." What's up with that?
Germany looks like its going back to its old habits. I wonder if a country declared that the RCC was primarily an economic organization (after all, it possesses immeasurably more wealth than the CoS), taxed it and suggested banning Roman Catholics from pretty much every job in its economy, whether you would be soooooooooooooooo supportive.
13 Dec 06
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Originally posted by no1marauderYour assessment of the facts is so .... original ..... and your analytical abilities are so ..... astounding .... and .... mindboggling .... wonderful ... really ....
Germany looks like its going back to its old habits. I wonder if a country declared that the RCC was primarily an economic organization (after all, it possesses immeasurably more wealth than the CoS), taxed it and suggested banning Roman Catholics from pretty much every job in its economy, whether you would be soooooooooooooooo supportive.
13 Dec 06
Originally posted by belgianfreakPsychiatry seems to me to be going more and more towards handing everyone pills. I did a psychology degree, and by the end of it I was so disgusted with the whole profession that I elected not to continue my studies in that area. Psychologists, as well as anyone else who will sit you down and help you work out your problems, can be a great tool. However, in my experience psychiatrists do often jump for pills as a first measure instead of attempting to help the person work out their own problems. Take attention deficit disorder, for example. Where was it 30 years ago? Is this some crazy new genetic mutation? It seems obvious to me that it is due to lack of exercise and poor eating habits, but thousands of children each year are put on ritalin and continue sitting in front of the television eating chocolate.
just a minor nit-pick... I thought psychiatrists were the doctors doing the medicating and psychologists were the non-doctors who talked with patients and got them to talk about their feelings/mothers. This may be a national difference, but maybe important as in the UK you don't need any qualifications to call yourself a psychologist.
This als ...[text shortened]... ent who has finally improved enough to go home after 6 years of therapy & meds!
13 Dec 06
Originally posted by whiterosewhiterose: ...... but thousands of children each year are put on ritalin and continue sitting in front of the television eating chocolate."
Psychiatry seems to me to be going more and more towards handing everyone pills. I did a psychology degree, and by the end of it I was so disgusted with the whole profession that I elected not to continue my studies in that area. Psychologists, as well as anyone else who will sit you down and help you work out your problems, can be a great tool. However, i ...[text shortened]... n each year are put on ritalin and continue sitting in front of the television eating chocolate.
... and MSG !
http://www.msgtruth.org/
Disease States Affected by MSG
ADD/ADHD
Addiction
Alcoholism
Allergy
A.L.S.
Alzheimer's Disease
Asthma
Atrial Fibrillation
Autism
Diabetes
Depression
Dizziness
Epilepsy
Fibromyalgia
Heat Stroke
High Blood Pressure
Hypothyroidism
Hypoglycemia
IBS
Inflammation
Migraine
Multiple Sclerosis
Obesity
Pituitary tumors
Rage/Panic Disorder
Rosacea
Sleep Disorders
Tinnitus
Vision Problems
http://www.msgtruth.org/states.htm
13 Dec 06
Originally posted by ivanhoeWell there you go. Perhaps the solution is to look at and modify what we already put into our bodies, rather than simply to add drugs.
whiterose: ...... but thousands of children each year are put on ritalin and continue sitting in front of the television eating chocolate."
... and MSG !
http://www.msgtruth.org/
Disease States Affected by MSG
ADD/ADHD
Addiction
Alcoholism
Allergy
A.L.S.
Alzheimer's Disease
Asthma
Atrial Fibrilla ...[text shortened]... leep Disorders
Tinnitus
Vision Problems
http://www.msgtruth.org/states.htm
Is this what scientology advocates? If so, I think they have a good point.
13 Dec 06
All well and good, but getting back to Scientology, one aspect not well known is what happens if you become a scientologist and then quit. It's somewhat like apostasy in Islam. You go from being a friend to being a total enemy. I happen to have been involved in scientology for about a week in 1968, where they were being nicey nicey trying to suck me in. They started inviting me into the offices (Washington DC)
and I saw inside the main office, L Ron Hubbard was still alive at that point and he was living on a boat never coming into the territorial waters of the US because he had pulled a Wesley Snipe deal and the IRS definitely wanted to have a close encounter with the dude. So they communicated by radio and stuff and the communiques were called Rongrams. So one of the discussions was about those who left the flock. They asked L Ron what to do. His reply, which I saw with my own two eyes, (well 4, with glasses🙂 was this: " There is always the 45 solution" It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what that meant. They go after the quitters very aggresively especially the ones who write insider books about all the BS going on in the upper ranks. It's a cult of the lowest kind. They prey on people's weaknesses, getting people to turn over their entire family fortune including mortgages, car loans, anything they can get of value from the unfortunate victims.
They are after one thing and one thing only, grow the organization and make money. For instance, in order to gain 'respectability' in the eyes of the rest of the world, they forced the books of L Ron Hubbard to the top of the charts, making it a best seller. How? simply putting the book, I think it was L Ron Hubbard's "Battlefield Earth" the one just co-incidently turned into that incredibly bad film with, wow, a bunch of scientologists, and to make the book a best seller, they just bought enough copies to make the 'best seller' list. I could go on but you all don't want to hear about the underbelly of scientology.
13 Dec 06
Originally posted by whiteroseinteresting experiences, thanks. Which country are you in?
Psychiatry seems to me to be going more and more towards handing everyone pills. I did a psychology degree, and by the end of it I was so disgusted with the whole profession that I elected not to continue my studies in that area. Psychologists, as well as anyone else who will sit you down and help you work out your problems, can be a great tool. However, i ...[text shortened]... n each year are put on ritalin and continue sitting in front of the television eating chocolate.
This can make a major difference. For example, France is known to medicate more than other contempary countries (eg. antibiotics, antidepressents), while the US they tend to jump on new therapies and use them widely, while other countries are more concertative and tend to wait for clinical evidence that the new drug/therapy works without undue side effects (with much of this data coming from the US where they are using the therapy...)
13 Dec 06
Originally posted by ivanhoea side question Ivanhoe - do you have respect for religions apart from Catholisism? Do you respect some more than others? But, being Christain, you think all other religions are wrong, so on what basis do you say that some are more wrong than others? By perceived intention of the religion? Similarity to Christianity? Perceived social harm/good?
Are there any Scientologists at this site ? ...you're cookoo enough to be one ......
13 Dec 06
Originally posted by whiteroseWhiterose: "Is this what scientology advocates?"
Well there you go. Perhaps the solution is to look at and modify what we already put into our bodies, rather than simply to add drugs.
Is this what scientology advocates? If so, I think they have a good point.
No, whiterose. Scientology is not interested in human health but rather in making money.
I would rather picture them as stockholders of the MSG producing industries.
"The Glutamate Association, established in 1977, is an association of manufacturers, national marketers, and processed food users of glutamic acid and its salts, principally the flavor enhancer, monosodium glutamate (MSG). Among the Association's international members are many of the world's largest food companies involved in such diverse areas as the manufacturing and marketing of food ingredients, spice and flavor blends, and canned, frozen and other packaged prepared foods."
http://www.msgfacts.com/aboutus.html
Same site:
"Not only does MSG make good food taste better for consumers, new studies show that MSG may play a role in the overall health and nutrition of people who need it most. Aging, as well as a number of diseases and illnesses, decrease our ability to taste and smell. This decrease in our senses is a major contributor to poor nutritional status in populations like the elderly, making it increasingly difficult for doctors and nutritionists to ensure that their patients get much-needed nutrients. Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.
http://www.msgfacts.com/facts/msgfact12.html
They already add this controversial taste enhancer to the food of people who belong to "institutionalized elderly populations", because MSG makes you eat more !
At the same time they are claiming that MSG consumption doesn't make you fat ! Of course not ! It's the extra food you eat because of MSG, stupid ........ McDonald's, KFC, Campbell's and all the rest of these junk food restaurants and junk food producers know this and therefore add MSG to their products. MSG is known to be the "nicotine of the food industry". Just google on "MSG obese rats" ....... Long live the obesity epidemic !
Oh well, this hasn't much to do with Scientology as far as I know, but it is an interesting sidetrack anyway.