Scripture without Chapters and verses

@thinkofone said
Sure. Hope it gave you some inkling as to how far out of your depth you are when it comes to understanding scripture. Once again you've shown that you can do little more than regurgitate the dogma that you've been taught. It's unfortunate that you lack the humility to admit it.

🙂 Regurgitating, you should ponder that one yourself.

@thinkofone said
Sure. Hope it gave you some inkling as to how far out of your depth you are when it comes to understanding scripture. Once again you've shown that you can do little more than regurgitate the dogma that you've been taught. It's unfortunate that you lack the humility to admit it.

You're far out of your depths when it comes to being a decent human being. 😕

@kellyjay said
I agree with you the point of God's love isn't just a feeling, it is seeing a need and doing something about it. As was done with the serpent, they asked him to take away the snakes that were killing them, and God instead had Moses make the bronze staff. Those that looked at it lived, and those that didn't died. It is the theme of love throughout the NT, as in James it says ...[text shortened]... world. Which can lead them into thinking we are home free because God wouldn't harm those He loves.

I don't think John 3:16 loses any of those key points.

In it, God acted - he gave up his son. It doesn't promise to save everyone, but only those who believe in the son.

@bigdoggproblem said
You're far out of your depths when it comes to being a decent human being. 😕

Still haven't gotten over having to have had the loaded question fallacy explained to you? Since then it's been on childishly inane comment after another from you.

@bigdoggproblem said
I don't think John 3:16 loses any of those key points.

In it, God acted - he gave up his son. It doesn't promise to save everyone, but only those who believe in the son.

@BigDoggProblem

I agree in context, but some stress the point of love to where they forget God is Good, Holy, Just, and will maintain all of those traits and can do nothing but that. I've seen it argued here that people stress God's love to the point that to them they feel He has to forgive no matter what and do no harm. If they don't see God gave the staff to an ungrateful people to look at to live or refuse to and die, they may not understand this is the way God shows his love to us, and if they don't read on from verse 16 the don't understand the danger they are in.

@thinkofone said
Still haven't gotten over having to have had the loaded question fallacy explained to you? Since then it's been on childishly inane comment after another from you.

What's childish about pointing out that you replied to a gracious post by Kelly by continuing to belittle him in your usual narcissistic, yet boringly cliched, fashion?

@kellyjay said
@BigDoggProblem

I agree in context, but some stress the point of love to where they forget God is Good, Holy, Just, and will maintain all of those traits and can do nothing but that. I've seen it argued here that people stress God's love to the point that to them they feel He has to forgive no matter what and do no harm. If they don't see God gave the staff to an ungratef ...[text shortened]... his love to us, and if they don't read on from verse 16 the don't understand the danger they are in.

I think it's a common human tendency to focus on only the bits of the Bible they like. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that.

@bigdoggproblem said
I think it's a common human tendency to focus on only the bits of the Bible they like. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that.

As long as the focus is within context. I can name a couple of people here who use and abuse a couple of text not looking at the how they are defining it in context of the rest of scripture or the books they are in.

@bigdoggproblem said
I think it's a common human tendency to focus on only the bits of the Bible they like. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that.

One of the things we lose when looking at scripture with Chapters and verses is we can pick out of it a verse or two. It isn't often we would do that with any other book, poem, letter with those we normally look at the whole and may have a favorite line or two, but in each they would always be in the context of the whole.

I can tell you that one of my favorite lines in Lord of the Rings is when Gandalf said, “Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them?" I thought Tolkien came up with a great line there, but I'd never seen it had I not read the whole book, and in my case several times.

@kellyjay said
One of the things we lose when looking at scripture with Chapters and verses is we can pick out of it a verse or two. It isn't often we would do that with any other book, poem, letter with those we normally look at the whole and may have a favorite line or two, but in each they would always be in the context of the whole.

I can tell you that one of my favorite lines in Lo ...[text shortened]... great line there, but I'd never seen it had I not read the whole book, and in my case several times.

You're a more patient person than I if you made it through LOTR multiple times. That book was more detail than I needed as a reader.

If you're saying that reading quoted snippets of a book is no substitute for reading the book for yourself, I agree.

@bigdoggproblem said
You're a more patient person than I if you made it through LOTR multiple times. That book was more detail than I needed as a reader.

If you're saying that reading quoted snippets of a book is no substitute for reading the book for yourself, I agree.

I loved those books but I have not read them since the movies came out. Another good fiction book you may like is “Watership Downs” there is a Netflix cartoon that is good but reading it is a much greater experience.

@bigdoggproblem said
What's childish about pointing out that you replied to a gracious post by Kelly by continuing to belittle him in your usual narcissistic, yet boringly cliched, fashion?

And the childishly inane comments continue..."boringly cliched"?

Clearly you still haven't gotten over having to have had the loaded question fallacy explained to you.

@thinkofone said
And the childishly inane comments continue..."boringly cliched"?

Clearly you still haven't gotten over having to have had the loaded question fallacy explained to you.

To be honest, I don't remember that exchange.

If you indeed bested me then, good for you.

@kellyjay said
I loved those books but I have not read them since the movies came out. Another good fiction book you may like is “Watership Downs” there is a Netflix cartoon that is good but reading it is a much greater experience.

That was a sad movie, IIRC; almost as sad as "Plague Dogs".

@bigdoggproblem said
That was a sad movie, IIRC; almost as sad as "Plague Dogs".

Wasn’t the dog story by the same guy? The thing about reading Watership Downs that I injoyed was at the end of the book you spent so much time in the minds of the rabbits it made me at least was wonder what really does go through their heads? 😉