Sexist Jesus

Originally posted by @eladar
No

Well whats your problem then?

(ps I'm not ditching you. I just goto log off for a few hours)

Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
Well whats your problem then?

(ps I'm not ditching you. I just goto log off for a few hours)

I don't have a problem.

Originally posted by @eladar
I don't have a problem.

Really?

Man you are in denial.
We all got problems ...

(just trek thru the comments if you wanna get back on point)

Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
Really?

Man you are in denial.
We all got problems ...

(just trek thru the comments if you wanna get back on point)

I have no problem with you acting by your heart and against God.

Originally posted by @eladar
I have no problem with you acting by your heart and against God.

I cant turn away from something/someone that does not exist ...

Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
I cant turn away from something/someone that does not exist ...

Can you prove that God does not exist? Or is that just your opinion?

Originally posted by @eladar
You, like most, reject God and his commands. This is true of many females who claim to be Christian but refuse to submit to their husbands.

You really do think this, don't you?

Jesus would say that he does not know you.

Originally posted by @suzianne
You really do think this, don't you?

Jesus would say that he does not know you.

So you claim that Christian wives are not to submit to their husbands?

Originally posted by @eladar
So you claim that Christian wives are not to submit to their husbands?

That is for those wives to decide.

But for someone to claim they should and then claim that God says they should is completely self-serving.

Any more restrictions you want to put on people who you think are inferior only because they are not like you?

Originally posted by @suzianne
That is for those wives to decide.

But for someone to claim they should and then claim that God says they should is completely self-serving.

Any more restrictions you want to put on people who you think are inferior only because they are not like you?

Yes, wives need to decide of they are going to follow God's commands or not. I totally agree.

Do I need to quote the Bible for you?

Originally posted by @eladar
Can you prove that God does not exist? Or is that just your opinion?

The concept of one overlord just does not add up with my worldview as informed by my senses

I like eledar. He shows the truth about his religion. At least two thirds think women should be subjugated.We all know the giver of life has balls.

He said, sarcastically.

Originally posted by @eladar
Yes, wives need to decide of they are going to follow God's commands or not. I totally agree.

Do I need to quote the Bible for you?

No, you don't.

You also don't need to tell me that when I tell you that you're full of crap that I'm disagreeing with God.

Originally posted by @suzianne
No, you don't.

You also don't need to tell me that when I tell you that you're full of crap that I'm disagreeing with God.

So you don't have like the truth.

Originally posted by @eladar
Yes, wives need to decide of they are going to follow God's commands or not. I totally agree.

Do I need to quote the Bible for you?

Verse 22 is preceded by verse 21 which has ALL the believers being being subject to one another.

" Being subject to one another in the fear of Christ." (Eph. 5:21)

The tone is subjection all around among the churching Christians.

The previous verse 18 shows that for this the believers need to be in the enjoyment of the fulness of the Holy Spirit.

"And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissolution, but be filled in spirit, ..." v.18)

You see it is one thing to be in dissolution through the excess indulgence in alcohol barking out commands to the wife. It is quite another that the Christian man and his wife seek to be filled with the Holy Spirit. Christ is alone the submissive One absolute for the will of God.

The believers need to be filled in spirit with Christ to submit and to love. Remember that the apostle's instruction is for the husband to deny himself and lay down his life for his wife following Christ's example to His church.

Verse 25 -

"Husbands, love your wives even as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her."

For a Christian husband to take the lead in his family must mean that he takes the lead to deny himself, say "No" to his flesh and enjoys the fulness of the Spirit of Christ within.

How else can you, like Christ, lay down your life in pure love for your wife ?

Also the Apostle Peter says that the Christian husband and wife are heirs together of the grace of divine life. Heirs together does not mean "You first and then me". Rather each has his or her respective responsibility to take Christ for grace, supply, empowering and enabling to live.

"Husbands, in like manner dwell together with them according to knowledge as with the weaker, female vessel, assigning honor to them as also to fellow heirs of the grace of life,

that your prayers may not be hindered." (1 Pet. 3:7)

His concern is that the couple's prayer life is effective, authoritative, and can touch the administration of God - moving His hand. How effective is the prayer life of the husband and wife?

Peter's concern is not to measure how much the man can boss around the woman.
Rather he is concerned with how much the grace of God flows through the unit - husband and wife, that their petitioning power before God is effective.