Originally posted by FMFLOL
If you don't think I am homosexual why do you post comments that suggest you do think I am homosexual? Do you believe these kinds of comments by you amount to valid debating points?
Yeah, sure, I think it's valid debating point... just like how you think feeling 'abhorred' is a valid debating point.
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Originally posted by lemon limeYou think the way I have argued ~ over the years here on this forum ~ that the "eternal torture" ideology lacks moral coherence [regardless of whether you agree with me] has not been done using valid debating points?
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Yeah, sure, I think it's valid debating point... just like how you think feeling 'abhorred' is a valid debating point.
Originally posted by FMFWell, if that's how you feel then obviously your debating points must be valid for you. I personally have a different take on moral coherence, and it's not exclusively dependent on whatever I might to want to believe... or how it makes me feel. If something is true but makes me feel sad, then I would rather feel sad than believe something that isn't true.
You think the way I have argued ~ over the years here on this forum ~ that the "eternal torture" ideology lacks moral coherence [regardless of whether you agree with me] has [b]not been done using valid debating points?[/b]
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Originally posted by lemon limeWell you "feel" that "eternal torture" is coherent, so we feel different things. But if you think that simply mocking the people you disagree with for them supposedly being gay is valid debating in the context of the kind of discussion we were having, surely the way I argued that the ideology of "eternal torture" for thought crimes is incoherent is also valid. I'm not asking you to agree with my argument, but if you think 'you're gay' is a valid debating point for both you and me, how can 'your torture ideology is incoherent' not be a valid debating point for you and me too?
Well, if that's how you feel then obviously your debating points must be valid for you. I personally have a different take on moral coherence, and it's not exclusively dependent on whatever I might to want to believe... or how it makes me feel. If something is true but makes me feel sad, then I would rather feel sad than believe something that isn't true.
Originally posted by lemon limeYou've believed in "eternal torture" for almost two days now. Is it therefore "true"? Would you say that this brand new belief of yours about "eternal torture" is a core Christian belief?
If something is true but makes me feel sad, then I would rather feel sad than believe something that isn't true.
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Originally posted by FMFIt appears you think calling people liars after lying about what they've said is a 'morally coherent' position. So don't you think it's a bit hypocritical of you to be claiming some high moral ground when you do this? But of course, you don't think you're a hypocrite... because you're not judging yourself by the same standard you judge anyone else.
But if you think that simply mocking the people you disagree with for being gay is valid debating, surely the way I argued that "eternal torture" for thought crimes is incoherent is also valid. I'm not asking you to agree with my argument, but if you think 'you're gay' is a valid debating point, how can 'your torture ideology is incoherent' not be a valid debating point for you too?
Originally posted by lemon limeWhere have I lied about what someone has said?
It appears you think calling people liars after lying about what they've said is a 'morally coherent' position. So don't you think it's a bit hypocritical of you to be claiming some high moral ground when you do this? But of course, you don't think you're a hypocrite... because you're not judging yourself by the same standard you judge anyone else.
Originally posted by lemon limeOn what basis are you suggesting I am a "lying sleazeball"?
before you answer consider the two other options for explaining your confusion... you're both a couple of lying sleazeballs, or just plain stupid. I can see how lying might work for dive in a corporate environment, but I have trouble believing he could make a decent living being stupid and/or on drugs.
Originally posted by lemon limeWhat justification do you have for repeatedly calling me a liar?
LOL Well, thank you again Dr Freud for another insightful look into your own personality. But you're not telling me anything about you I don't already know. So what is it... drugs, lying, or just plain old stupidity? No one wants to be seen as being stupid, and I can't imagine you admit to being a liar. So let's see how good you are at math and logic... If there are only three options and it's not 2 or 3, then which option is it?
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First lemon lime was taunting me for supposedly being gay and now he's taunting me for supposedly being a liar.
Meanwhile, the as yet unanswered question that appeared to bring all this on:
lemon lime, you spent 40 or so years as a Christian who simply did not know what happened to people who were not "saved" by your God figure, and now ~ all of a sudden ~ on page 50 of this thread ~ you now "know" that their punishment is being tortured for eternity?
Originally posted by FMFDid I name names? Didn't I say "some"? Do you interpret that to mean "all" ?
Good grief. What nonsense. Even redbadger does not "...only post here for the purpose of making ad hominem comments". What ~ and who ~ on earth do you think you're referring to when you make such daft statements? 😕
Are you going to sit there and expect me to believe the practice of belittling in this forum doesn't exist?
Don't be daft!