Stronger without a God

@kellyjay said
An absolute?

Becker has ruined that word. I refuse to comment on it.

There are no caveats when it comes to genocide. If a religion tells you there are, find another religion.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Becker has ruined that word. I refuse to comment on it.

There are no caveats when it comes to genocide. If a religion tells you there are, find another religion.

You have talked about the taking of the life of several people, each person matters, why only genocide, why not the womb, it is you who justifies or turns a blind eye to the death of millions one at a time. You want to condemn God without looking at God's justification, without acknowledging what you let go or refuse to talk about, there is a word for that.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Becker has ruined that word. I refuse to comment on it.

There are no caveats when it comes to genocide. If a religion tells you there are, find another religion.

I'm taking advice from someone who advocates taking the most innocent of life, a hundred times more lives than Hitler took in the Holocaust?

LMAO!

Face it, your moral compass is skewed by the religion of today, which is Leftism.



It was not long ago that men used to sacrifice their children to the gods. In fact, pretty much all ancient pagan religions did just that across the globe. They were not told by these lifeless gods to do this, they just invented it in their evil hearts to do that. And why did they murder their children to the gods? It was in the hopes of such things as victory at war, better crops, fertility, etc. In other words, they were willing to murder their own children for material gain, just like woman do today with abortion. In fact, if it had not been for the God of the Bible, these horrible pagan religions would have continued unabated.

But then the God of the Bible does something inexplicable. He asks Abraham to sacrifice his own son. But here is the difference between those that worshipped the pagan gods and Abraham, Abraham loved his son. In fact, his son is what he lived his life for, it was his only son and killing him was the LAST thing he wanted to do. But from Abraham's perspective, it was not an odd request considering the culture of the day. It would be akin to God asking Sarah to have an abortion today. They were simply immersed in an evil culture, just like we are today, but God preventing Abraham from taking the life of his son sent a message to Abraham and to the ancient world at that time which is God does not accept nor want child sacrifice.

Now you can take stories, like Abraham being asked to sacrifice his son or Sodom and Gomorrah, and try to paint God as a monster. But consider this, Abraham had such a good heart that he argued with God about destroying the city. He asked God if there were but 50 or so good men, would he spare the city, and God said yes he would. Then he asked if there were but 20 would he spare the city, and God said he would, etc. But as the numbers waned to the point of realizing there were none left in the city that were morally salvageable, it dawned on Abraham that he did not fully grasp the wickedness of those in the city, and the subsequent death and destruction they were inflicting on others. It dawned on him that perhaps there would be far less death and suffering if they all went bye, bye. And we do get a taste of just how wicked the city was as angels, who looked like men, entered the city. The men of Sodom followed the angels to Lot's house and demanded that the angels come out so they could gang rape them and do God knows what else to them later.

Who here advocates not taking the war to Hitler and putting them all 6 feet under verses letting them continue to wreak havoc on the planet? I don't, do you?

But what do we see from the Left today? They oppose capital punishment. They ironically advocate the taking of innocent life, which is their own flesh and blood, but oppose those that would just assume slit their throat who are absolute strangers. They have morality bass ackwards.

@kellyjay said
You have talked about the taking of the life of several people, each person matters, why only genocide, why not the womb, it is you who justifies or turns a blind eye to the death of millions one at a time. You want to condemn God without looking at God's justification, without acknowledging what you let go or refuse to talk about, there is a word for that.

Notice that when those who oppose abortion say they oppose it based upon the notion that it is a human life, the response is, "It's a woman's right to choose". In other words, they don't even bother about debating the virtual impossible task of providing a date as to when the unborn is not human to when it is human. They want what they want and to hell with debating the ethics of it. In fact, to hell with those that disagree with them and any religion that would seek to stop it.

@whodey said
I'm taking advice from someone who advocates taking the most innocent of life, a hundred times more lives than Hitler took in the Holocaust?

LMAO!

Face it, your moral compass is skewed by the religion of today, which is Leftism.



It was not long ago that men used to sacrifice their children to the gods. In fact, pretty much all ancient pagan religions did just tha ...[text shortened]... t would just assume slit their throat who are absolute strangers. They have morality bass ackwards.

Please, by all means, tell me what my views are on abortion and point me to a single post I have made advocating what you have described.

@kellyjay said
You have talked about the taking of the life of several people, each person matters, why only genocide, why not the womb, it is you who justifies or turns a blind eye to the death of millions one at a time. You want to condemn God without looking at God's justification, without acknowledging what you let go or refuse to talk about, there is a word for that.

If you don't want to tackle the OP Kelly, that's fine.

And please, point me to where I have 'justified or turns a blind eye to the death of millions one at a time.'

Whodey and yourself seem to have telepathic powers on this issue.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
If you don't want to tackle the OP Kelly, that's fine.

And please, point me to where I have 'justified or turns a blind eye to the death of millions one at a time.'

Whodey and yourself seem to have telepathic powers on this issue.

It is the death of people and if God is at fault is it not? If you are speaking only of humanity against humanity we are in complete agreement, me because I view all human life as sacred, and you for your personal beliefs.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
If you don't want to tackle the OP Kelly, that's fine.

And please, point me to where I have 'justified or turns a blind eye to the death of millions one at a time.'

Whodey and yourself seem to have telepathic powers on this issue.

The secular society you think is so great and stronger is the same society that has adopted the genocide of abortion.

To be honest, your opinion on the matter of abortion is beside the point.

@kellyjay said
It is the death of people and if God is at fault is it not? If you are speaking only of humanity against humanity we are in complete agreement, me because I view all human life as sacred, and you for your personal beliefs.

So you are retracting your statement, 'it is you who justifies or turns a blind eye to the death of millions one at a time'?

And yes, you view all human life as sacred,...unless God indicates otherwise.

@whodey said
The secular society you think is so great and stronger is the same society that has adopted the genocide of abortion.

To be honest, your opinion on the matter of abortion is beside the point.

Then why raise it?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
So you are retracting your statement, 'it is you who justifies or turns a blind eye to the death of millions one at a time'?

And yes, you view all human life as sacred,...unless God indicates otherwise.

Life is so sacred, those that murder should be put to death.

Not doing so says otherwise.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Then why raise it?

Again, the issue is that the society that you praise as being better for being so secular is the issue at hand.

You, being secular, and not posting anything about abortion says that you are indifferent at best about the genocide.

No doubt, this won't prevent you from continuing to feel morally superior to people like myself, but the point has been made nonetheless.

@whodey said
Again, the issue is that the society that you praise as being better for being so secular is the issue at hand.

You, being secular, and not posting anything about abortion says that you are indifferent at best about the genocide.

No doubt, this won't prevent you from continuing to feel morally superior to people like myself, but the point has been made nonetheless.

To clarify, people are automatically indifferent about topics they haven't posted about?!

I am yet to hear you post anything about children dying from famine in Africa. Is it okay for me to assume you are indifferent to their plight?

@whodey said
Again, the issue is that the society that you praise as being better for being so secular is the issue at hand.

You, being secular, and not posting anything about abortion says that you are indifferent at best about the genocide.

No doubt, this won't prevent you from continuing to feel morally superior to people like myself, but the point has been made nonetheless.

And yes, I am morally stronger than any individual who has assimilated the horrors of the OT into their moral framework.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
So you are retracting your statement, 'it is you who justifies or turns a blind eye to the death of millions one at a time'?

And yes, you view all human life as sacred,...unless God indicates otherwise.

I am not turning a blind eye, I told you every death is due to the God who gives life in the first place. If anything I have gone far above your complaints.