Originally posted by DowardHow on earth do you know ancient hebrew had no /J/ ???
though he may have garbled the message a tad there, essentially he is correct: ancient Hebrew had no "J" sound. Therefor it is innacurate to claim the name of God as Jehovah. Yehovah would be closer, but even in that scholars are not sure of the consanants.
When I briefly studied Latin at school there was debate over pronounciation ... particularly "v", was it /v/ or /w/. Nobody knows for sure although there will be clever arguments from linguists.
Hebrew being older must be in even more doubt.
For comparison observe how the Spanish "c" (/th/ in most regions) has changed to /s/ in South America. That in just a few hundred years.
Originally posted by wolfgang59http://www.remnantofyhwh.com/Backup%20of%20No%20J%20in%20Hebrew.htm
How on earth do you know ancient hebrew had no /J/ ???
When I briefly studied Latin at school there was debate over pronounciation ... particularly "v", was it /v/ or /w/. Nobody knows [b]for sure although there will be clever arguments from linguists.
Hebrew being older must be in even more doubt.
For comparison observe how the Spanish "c" ( ...[text shortened]... th/ in most regions) has changed to /s/ in South America. That in just a few hundred years.[/b]
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/Yod/yod.html
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI actually agree with you on this (Now this is being stereotypical but it holds true in a lot churches I've attended in my life) 100% something is fundamentally wrong with the churches these days.
yes it has. This probably has its foundations in a number of factors, for example the
clergy laity distinction. Nominal Christians pay a pastor to preach and teach for them.
This whole arrangement diminishes personal responsibility and has resulted in millions
of persons being spoon fed every Sunday. They emphasise personal salvation above ...[text shortened]... t reasonable, simply because their faith is not
based upon reason, but a kind of emotionalism.
Manny
Originally posted by DowardI can't remember where but I remember it being said that it may not even have been a word in the classic sense but like a sound or breath. God is called the breath of life. Of course even this would be speculation.
though he may have garbled the message a tad there, essentially he is correct: ancient Hebrew had no "J" sound. Therefor it is innacurate to claim the name of God as Jehovah. Yehovah would be closer, but even in that scholars are not sure of the consanants.
Manny
Originally posted by galveston75Mormons don't have paid preachers...each ward or parish is led by a bishop who is in that position for about 5 years...he's not paid...the preaching is shared by members of the church...
Do you know of any churches that don't have a paid preacher?
The Society of Friends has a paid clergy, but the "preaching" is also done by the members.
Originally posted by RJHindsI did it again.
http://www.remnantofyhwh.com/Backup%20of%20No%20J%20in%20Hebrew.htm
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/Yod/yod.html
I promised myself I wouldn't.
But I thought maybe .... just maybe ... an RJHinds link might be useful ............
I'll never get back those minutes ... gone for ever.
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