The First Question

The First Question

Spirituality

Sinner

Saved by grace

Joined
18 Dec 16
Moves
557
21 Oct 18

@proper-knob said
@SecondSon

'That which is presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence' - Hitch.
The evidence is all around you. Very simple.

F

Joined
28 Oct 05
Moves
34587
21 Oct 18

@secondson said
Existentialism anyone?

God, and His commandments, exists independent of what you believe.

Grapple with it all you want, and hide behind the facade of statements of unbelief, but you will never escape the reality of God that exists to your very core.

God knows where you are, but demonstrates His grace by gently asking "where art thou", FMF?
I can't be disobeying "commandments" I don't believe exist. 

Sinner

Saved by grace

Joined
18 Dec 16
Moves
557
21 Oct 18

@fmf said
I can't be disobeying "commandments" I don't believe exist. 
You can, whether you believe they exist or not.

Cornovii

North of the Tamar

Joined
02 Feb 07
Moves
53689
21 Oct 18

@SecondSon

Do tell.

F

Joined
28 Oct 05
Moves
34587
21 Oct 18

@secondson said
You can, whether you believe they exist or not.
Surely you had something less clumsy than this kind of thing in mind when you asked your OP question?

T

Joined
15 Oct 06
Moves
10115
21 Oct 18
2 edits

@secondson said
Do you have anything to say relevant to the OP?
You asked the following:
<<What's your excuse for not obeying the commandment of your maker?>>

I provided two beliefs that many Christians hold that serve as excuses for those who do not obey:
Two beliefs held by many Christians play a major role in not obeying:
1) Ceasing to sin is not required for "salvation" / "eternal life" / living in the Kingdom / receiving the "spirit of truth" / being "born again".
2) Ceasing to sin is not possible for any given human being.


It's a fact. Are you claiming they don't serve as excuses for those who do not obey?

But then, you aren't one to allow facts to get in the way of what you like to believe.

Sinner

Saved by grace

Joined
18 Dec 16
Moves
557
21 Oct 18

@proper-knob said
@SecondSon

Do tell.
Self evident. Most simple.

Sinner

Saved by grace

Joined
18 Dec 16
Moves
557
21 Oct 18

@thinkofone said
You asked the following:
<<What's your excuse for not obeying the commandment of your maker?>>

I provided two beliefs that many Christians hold that serve as excuses for those who do not obey:
[quote]Two beliefs held by many Christians play a major role in not obeying:
1) Ceasing to sin is not required for "salvation" / "eternal life" / living in the Kingdom / recei ...[text shortened]... hey don't?

But then, you aren't one to allow facts to get in the way of what you like to believe.
Don't worry about them. Worry about yourself.

Your excuse is noted.

Cornovii

North of the Tamar

Joined
02 Feb 07
Moves
53689
21 Oct 18

@SecondSon

So simple, you can’t explain it?!

Joined
14 Mar 15
Moves
28795
21 Oct 18

@secondson said
The evidence is all around you. Very simple.
Couldn't a Hindu give the same answer, if asked for evidence that their gods exist?

Sinner

Saved by grace

Joined
18 Dec 16
Moves
557
21 Oct 18

@fmf said
Surely you had something less clumsy than this kind of thing in mind when you asked your OP question?
No. I fully expected you to provide the clumsy excuses.

F

Joined
28 Oct 05
Moves
34587
21 Oct 18

@secondson said
No. I fully expected you to provide the clumsy excuses.
People can't disobey "commandments" they don't believe exist. 

Sinner

Saved by grace

Joined
18 Dec 16
Moves
557
21 Oct 18

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Couldn't a Hindu give the same answer, if asked for evidence that their gods exist?
No.

There's only one God.

Sinner

Saved by grace

Joined
18 Dec 16
Moves
557
21 Oct 18

@fmf said
People can't disobey "commandments" they don't believe exist. 
Don't be silly. They do it all the time.

Sinner

Saved by grace

Joined
18 Dec 16
Moves
557
21 Oct 18

@proper-knob said
@SecondSon

So simple, you can’t explain it?!
So simple it doesn't need explaining.

Cookies help us deliver our Services. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Learn More.