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@sonship saidI'l play ball. I put to you this -
@Proper-Knob
Define ‘meaning’.
Define 'define'.
You are here by accident just as much as me
and everybody else, and you will die by accident just like me and everybody else.
"For I am persuaded that neither death nor life nor angels nor principalities nor things present nor things to come nor powers nor height nor depth nor any other creature will be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." (Rom. 8:28,29)
For whatever reason, you decided upon subscribing to ancient Jewish mythology to give your life meaning.
@sonship saidNo, I’m afraid the onus is on you. It’s up to you to prove that the Bible is not Jewish mythology. We don’t accept talking sheep and serpents, Biblical floods, miracles, virgin births, resurrected people et al as normal and try to prove otherwise. That’s nonsensical. The burned of proof lies with you - ‘extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence’.
That is what you have to prove - the New Testament is Jewish mythology.
@proper-knob saidProof doesn't come to man in most things, even in our sciences things have to be
No, I’m afraid the onus is on you. It’s up to you to prove that the Bible is not Jewish mythology. We don’t accept talking sheep and serpents, Biblical floods, miracles, virgin births, resurrected people et al as normal and try to prove otherwise. That’s nonsensical. The burned of proof lies with you - ‘extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence’.
No, I’m afraid the onus is on you. It’s up to you to prove that the Bible is not Jewish mythology.
We don’t accept talking sheep and serpents,
Biblical floods,
miracles, virgin births, resurrected people
et al as normal and try to prove otherwise.
That’s nonsensical. The burned [sic] of proof lies with you - ‘extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence’.
There has 'never' been a 'global' flood, though I'm sure to those ancient folk it seemed like the whole world was under water. (You know, before the internet).
@sonship saidYes, acts of natural catastrophe can and have happened on an imperfect planet.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke
There has 'never' been a 'global' flood, though I'm sure to those ancient folk it seemed like the whole world was under water. (You know, before the internet).
Personally, I leave room for the possibility that Moses may have been speaking of the world as known by the people then living.
Not all readers of Genesis insist that ...[text shortened]... o after video of the tsunami it hit home that what Noah's flood story describes is believable to me.
Yes, acts of natural catastrophe can and have happened on an imperfect planet.
@sonship saidWhen a natural disaster does occur, say a tsunami that causes untold destruction and random loss of life, where 'is' God (the all-powerful and perfectly loving deity) in that?
@Ghost-of-a-Duke
Yes, acts of natural catastrophe can and have happened on an imperfect planet.
I am not suggesting that we look for God's judging behind every storm, flood, or natural disaster.
When a natural disaster does occur, say a tsunami that causes untold destruction and random loss of life, where 'is' God (the all-powerful and perfectly loving deity) in that?
Did He:
A. Send the disaster?
B. Allow it to happen?
C. Lack the power to prevent it?
D. Simply not care enough to intervene?
"And to Adam He said, Because you listened to the voice of your wife and have eaten of the tee concerning which
I commanded you, saying, You shall not eat of it;
Cursed is the ground because of you; In toil will you eat of it all the days of your life.
And thorns and thistles will it bring forth for you, and you wull eat the herbs of the field; By the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground,
Because out of it you were taken; For dust you are and to dust you shall return." (Genesis 3:17-19)
"And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose." (Rom. 8:28)