The god who burns people alive for eternity

@secondson said
he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

If you interpret that verse to say and mean that Jesus is "in hell overseeing the eternal burning" of those in hell you are a deluded fraud.

@FMF

Do you not have answers to the three questions?

@sonship

Second, the “eternal sin” narrative contains the sobering caution that we must guard our hearts, so as to keep them always honest, and open to the reception of truth (cf. Eph. 4:19; 2 Tim. 4:1ff). When one resists the teaching of the Holy Spirit, as conveyed through the sacred Scriptures (cf. Acts 7:51), such can lead to more intense gradations of rebellion (cf. Heb. 10:29b), resulting ultimately in an eternity of unimaginable horror.

Apostasy rarely comes in leaps. Rather, it creeps up by seconds, and those seconds eventually become hours, days, and years. When those years cross the line into eternity, it is too late to remedy the condition.

@secondson said
Are you that stupid?

Most of what you say about what the Bible says is stupid, but your question blatantly underscores just how ignorant you are.

Where does it say in the Bible that Jesus is in hell overseeing anything?

Revelation 14:10
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he ...[text shortened]... ows how manipulative and arrogant you are by trying to drive the debate with a misinformed theology.

Still nothing unequivocal on the OP from secondson, sonship and KellyJay.

Q. Is Jesus literally in hell overseeing the eternal burning alive of non Christians or not?

Just post after post of hemming and hawing ... fascinating.

@divegeester

If you're so cock sure that you are on the all right side of the debate, then you can afford to answer my question.

You do NOT want an unrighteous, monsterous, unjust, AWFUL God, so -

If you turn out to be mistaken as a Christian, and there IS eternal punishment, HOW are you going to be able to stand it living with God, when you know Satan was right?

Will you want to be away from the wrong God and join the WRONGED Satan forever ?

@sonship said
@divegeester

If you're so cock sure that you are on the all right side of the debate, then you can afford to answer my question.

You do NOT want an unrighteous, monsterous, unjust, AWFUL God, so -

If you turn out to be mistaken as a Christian, and there IS eternal punishment, HOW are you going to be able to stand it living with God, when you know Satan was right? ...[text shortened]... nt to be away from the wrong God and join the WRONGED Satan forever ?

@divegeester

When you answer the point in my OP or the direct version in my post above, I will happily answer whatever question you wish to put to me.

@sonship said
@divegeester

When you answer the point in my OP or the direct version in my post above, I will happily answer whatever question you wish to put to me.

You promise?

But you see, I am petty sure that you will continually move the goal post and object that I have not answered the OP.

I am pretty sure that you will accept nothing as an answer ...[text shortened]... eement with YOU as you wish.

Why should I fall for "Answer Me. Answer Me! Waffle! Waffle!" ?

@divegeester

What is in play here is yours, SecondSon’s and KellyJay’s utter inability to be honest about your own terrible doctrine.

@sonship said
@divegeester

What is in play here is yours, SecondSon’s and KellyJay’s utter inability to be honest about your own terrible doctrine.

No. What is in play is that it is really not a question that you wish answered. It is a statement that you wish to MAKE with a question mark after it ... for posture only.

What does not end up agreeing with you saying "terrible doctrine" you will not regard as an answer.

Sonship

Q. As Revelation points out..... Jesus (the lamb) will be present in hell overseeing the punishment of non Christians.

True or false?

Your version of God burns non Christians alive sonship.

True or false?

@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

[quote] Kelly, even if love 'couldn't' overlook a crime, nothing could justify such a disproportionate punishment. A father, who loves his child, may rightly punish that child for wrong doing, but only then so that the child would learn from the experience and change their behaviour. What a loving father would not do is punish that child with eternal torme ...[text shortened]... are sucked up into likeness of their leader - the punished Devil - Satan - the irreconcilable rebel.

@divegeester

This thread was started because of your dishonesty in the other forum. It’s your own fault.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Why is it every time you post about Robert Govett I have to correct you on the spelling of his name?