Originally posted by @secondsonDid Jesus say that somewhere?
Jesus is God. Deny that, then you don't know Jesus.
Originally posted by @secondsonCan you provide any scripture to back up your claim? Scripture that doesn't need to be twisted into extreme interpretation? That all can clearly agree on?
The doctrine of the Godhead is taught by the scriptures.
You deny the scriptures and teach another gospel. You know what that'll get you.
Doubt it.
Originally posted by @chaney3Twisted to the extreme judged by someone without the holy spirit.
Can you provide any scripture to back up your claim? Scripture that doesn't need to be twisted into extreme interpretation? That all can clearly agree on?
Doubt it.
Sorry it can't happen. Jesus taught in parables so people like you would remain in the dark.
Originally posted by @eladarSo Jesus wants me to remain in the dark, which could land me in the lake of fire?
Twisted to the extreme judged by someone without the holy spirit.
Sorry it can't happen. Jesus taught in parables so people like you would remain in the dark.
You're crazy.
Originally posted by @secondsonIm waiting for some references.
No. The doctrine of the Godhead is taught by the scriptures.
Notice I can [and do] provide references for whatever I say.
Originally posted by @chaney3So far we have some pretty crazy Christians who are good to keep away from:
So Jesus wants me to remain in the dark, which could land me in the lake of fire?
You're crazy.
Eladar
Second Son
Romans1009.
They promote a church doctrine which so far cannot be substantiated from the Bible.
Matthew 13
The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”
11 He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12 Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. 13 This is why I speak to them in parables:
“Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.
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Originally posted by @eladarSorry chaney what little you have will be taken from you. It is how God wills.
Matthew 13
The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”
11 He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12 Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. 13 Th ...[text shortened]... rables:
“Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.
Originally posted by @chaney3"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
Can you provide any scripture to back up your claim? Scripture that doesn't need to be twisted into extreme interpretation? That all can clearly agree on?
Doubt it.
"Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God."
"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."
"And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."
"You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior.”
“Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”
“To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ”
“My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.” Therefore the Jews sought to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God."
"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory."
"For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily."
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
"That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Which in his times he shall shew, [who is] the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."
Want more? I can do this all day, but that should be enough for an honest man.
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Originally posted by @secondsonAn honest preacher would quote a simple passage that people can understand rather that confuse the issue with vague meaningless passages.
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
"Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no G ...[text shortened]... asting. Amen."
Want more? I can do this all day, but that should be enough for an honest man.
For example: But I would have you know, that .. the head of Christ is God.
(1 Corinthians 11:3 KJV)
or Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. Matthew 16:16-17 KJV)